Instigator / Pro
Points: 11

Unrap Battles ARE NOT TROLL DEBATES

Finished

The voting period has ended

After 7 votes the winner is ...
Ramshutu
Debate details
Publication date
Last update
Category
Music
Time for argument
Two days
Voting system
Open voting
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Four points
Rating mode
Rated
Characters per argument
10,000
Contender / Con
Points: 46
Description
Someone said (I won't state who) that Unrap Battles are troll debates, they aren't.
Round 1
Published:
To set the rules straight:
Unrap is not a word but will not be used against someone for "grammatical mistakes"
I waive this round, just to test if this is going to be trolled or something

Published:

Troll debate definition.

Within the DebateArt user resources post: 
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346

Is a resource link relating to moderation, including precedents and definitions:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZqYSEOjJlTjFBlrodKEn5UeHBROyCMktyxoa3OWfIR8/mobilebasic

This contains the following definition.

Section B: Troll Debates

Subsection B1: Defining Troll Debates

A troll debate is any
  • Competition-style debate (e.g. rap battle, talent show, poetry competition)
  • Debate primarily designed to be humorous or facetious or containing primarily humorous or facetious content
  • Debate on a truism (e.g. "a bachelor is someone who is unmarried")
An unrap battle, given the definitions used in Dart, is  a battle to see who makes the worst rap[1], or insults themselves best [2]

As in both cases thus battle is a competition style debate, as well as containing primarily humorous or facetious content, this meets the criteria and definitions of debateart to be a troll debate.

Context

Given the reference to debates, and that my opponent references what appears to be another member: it is evident that my opponent is talking about what is a troll debate in the context of how that term is understood on Dart (as per above), and not any other context.

Conclusion:

Unrap battles clearly meet the definition of Troll debate as defined within dart. Thus the resolution is negated.


Sources:

[1]https://www.debateart.com/debates/818

Round 2
Published:
Shoot
I guess you win.

Published:
Thank you pro, are you sure you don’t to present an argument? I was somewhat expecting you to challenge the definitions!
Round 3
Published:
Well, I suck at debating so yeah...
Published:
I guess all I can say is vote for con then!
Added:
--> @RationalMadman
R-A-M-S-H-U-T-U
Let's GO RAMSHUTU
Instigator
#14
Added:
@RM
WHAT DO YOU MEAN
#13
Added:
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#12
Added:
Lol! Ramshutu you have cheerleaders!
#11
Added:
@RM
Your narcissistic as FUCK
#10
Added:
--> @RationalMadman
MR. RM
He's better than you because he's more moral, ethical, and overall more respectful than you.
Instigator
#9
Added:
--> @Club
I am confused, what makes you think Ramshutu is so much better than me? If you say Rating, I will be happy to discuss further the shallowness if your anlaysis.
#8
Added:
--> @Club
Just as a forewarning, while I very much appreciate the support and the vote of confidence; I’d personally recommend not antagonizing RM, unless you want to be dealing with tagging, and snide remarks aimed at you. :)
Contender
#7
Added:
--> @RationalMadman
And I'm pretty sure that your just salty that Ramshutu is way better than you
Instigator
#6
Added:
--> @RationalMadman
Dude
It's not cool to diss someone about debating. Just stop okay?
Instigator
#5
Added:
Wheeeeaaattttoooonnn
Contender
#4
Added:
--> @Ramshutu
You will not break my spirit, you will not make me snap. Stop trying, you look pathetic. In that debate, I am actually happy that I was that angry and didn't give a fuck past R2. It was important to highlight the very issue with voting that lets your votes able to qualify as valid despite being anything but.
#3
Added:
“The only kind of debate that Ramshutu can win is one where his opponent is shit or emotionally worked up.”
Sometimes when they’re both: https://www.debateart.com/debates/697
Contender
#2
Added:
Vote for ramshutu
Instigator
#1
#7
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Concession
#6
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Club conceded but Ramshutu had a typo and since it's not likely club is going to win I'll just give him a few points.
#5
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Concession
#4
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Concession for Con, but pro was nice.
#3
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Concession...
Pro, conceding does not mean you suck at debating; nor does being wrong on some points. The inability to admit fault would mean you suck.
#2
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Concession
#1
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
The only kind of debate that Ramshutu can win is one where his opponent is shit or emotionally worked up.
Concession is why he won this.