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Theatrics and Music picking

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TheRealNihilist
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Description
2 songs each round. You can add explanations if you want.
1st one will be a theatrical music video. Something like general music videos, anime openings or game trailers.
2nd one will be OST or music with a still image background.
So basically one judged on the theatrics and the other judged only on music.
Theatrics will still be judged on music but it will also be judged on what is going on in the video. 2nd one is specifically music based.
Not rated because it is subjective and doubt I have time and effort to argue for a standard in this debate.
Round 1
Published:
You can choose to watch the video before the paragraphs or read the paragraphs before watching the video. Your choice. I wouldn't know what you prefer. 
 
Game Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-Ixo7QXw_E&list=PLjmzPHcb35ywYU7qrY4QSLDEO_WDX0YoK&index=3&t=0s
 
This to me is about an experienced fighter who has traveled distant lands, beaten many foes and finally met his match not due to his skill but his age which can be signified by the past of himself walking away suggesting his youth is fading from him. Not being fast enough to be able to keep up with limitless odds from the point of the view of an older man. He is carried to his end but defiant to the end he shrugs the shackles of life signified by him pushing away from the two guards holding him which suggests if he dies he wants to die on his own accord not of natural causes. Even though he shrugged the shackles of life he was still pushed by life reminding him if he doesn't die quick enough natural causes will take him. As he reaches the end he sees his past self on the right. This to me feels like he realizes what his youthful self-had. A direction. He looks up at the sky instead of looking down to pretty much say it doesn't matter if I can't physically do the things I did in the past. I can still mentally be the person I was before but this time have the experience to know how to best live the remainder of my life.
 
Original Soundtrack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjDO91gNiCU&list=PLc_RJ2laVnkAwYhZ7V8t4n4y-U1zd0fOj&index=15&t=0s
 
This to me appeals to humanities enjoyment. Their want to enjoy their time they have with bright lights and theme parks. Everyone forgets about the worries of life when in a joyful mood and the amusement park helps people to feel disconnected from their responsibilities.  The rides can offer a sense of thrill in their life they might not be accustomed to. Reminding them they have things to learn even after so much time has passed. The food represents scarcity leading to high prices. Since there aren’t other stores the Amusement park can rip you off with the food but that doesn't matter to the joyful group. They are too blissful to make rational decisions and that might be a good thing. Letting go everyone once in a while can remind people of the positives of life instead of dreading their responsibilities. As emotional creature we require happiness in order to feel fulfilled and an Amusement park can help people lay off even if it is only for a while. 

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Game-Music-Video (GMV) - Rubika - Lost In The Moment
YT Artist - Aras Games


Has a tiny bit of buttock but the crack is covered. Fantastic piece.

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OST: Orochimaru's Theme

^ if this is copy-blocked in your nation look here:


It is the same song, it is by the same user, it's about technicalities of copyright.

This shit needs no explanation at all, one of the best villain soundtracks musically and emotionally.
Round 2
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Game Trailer
Metal Gear Solid 2 - Sons of Liberty (TGS 2001 HD version) 


Starts off slow but it does eventually increase.

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Original Soundtrack
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask - Song of Healing


Like it.

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►Music: "I Am Defiant" - The Seige [Explicit]

Since no complaints about fan-made videos for the game stuff I will stick to my niche.

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Round 3
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Game Opening
Person 4


Liked the game and I also liked the opening.
Game opening because if you wait long enough in the start menu or if you don't skip you will see this.

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Original Soundtrack
Persona 5 - Wake Up, Get Up, Get Out There


Liked the soundtrack but haven't bought the game.
Some based on the Persona games are really long and doubtful I would get a better story then playing Persona 3 if I finish it anytime soon.

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Since no complaints about fan-made videos for the game stuff I will stick to my niche.
I used theatrical because I wanted something more than just music. This can be anything from an AMV to trailer to a game opening. So you can do fan-made because there is something more than music going on as in more than just a still image with music. 
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I see, so this could be a fan-made cinematic for the horror movie It (literally the movie is named It)

Eminem & 2Pac - I'm The Devil 

DON'T WATCH IF YOU'RE EASILY SCARED, ESP BY CLOWNS.

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Round 4
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AMV
Madara Uchia - Monster


I like it. Was either this AMV or this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDl07T3UcDA

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Original Soundtrack
Smackdown vs Raw 2005 - Riot Time


Favorite wrestling game and some part of it was because of the soundtrack. Here is one that I liked from it. 

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Pro has given 2 entries as their Round 4 cinematic trailer. This is disqualified and please vote Con. Pro must not ever do that and apologise profusely otherwise hand me the win 100% thank you.

This has made it so that I can't give the second link as my own cinematic, this is a toxic strategy as now if I even give a related Madara or Eren AMV, it will look staged.

You want that as your Naruto Cinematic entry? Okay, I do this.

Naruto「AMV」Someone to Die For

Play dirty against the rational madman, get bodied at your own game.

This is a fan-made cinematic trailer, at it's fucking finest.

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Flipsyde - Someday (from the Never Back Down OST)

If you insist on no video movement at all listen to this lower quality slightly tempo-altered version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWPQS0LiuFI

The actual version with music video, it's the only YT-available good quality version of the audio (ignore the visuals, tab out)

Round 5
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Pro has given 2 entries as their Round 4 cinematic trailer. This is disqualified and please vote Con. Pro must not ever do that and apologise profusely otherwise hand me the win 100% thank you.
Wait what? One was an original soundtrack and another was a theatrical video. One had a still image with music and another had many images with music. This clearly can be seen and this is what I am considering him appealing to the crowd with false information. Doubt anyone would fall for such a lie so take my opponents weak attempt at a gotcha as you will. 

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Music Video
Avril Lavigne - Nobody's Home (Official Music Video)


I like it.

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Original Soundtrack
Avirl Lavigne - Anything but Ordinary 


Close second and third were:
Avril Lavigne - Falling Fast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt75fGC2tZ8
Avril Lavigne - I Will Be: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0gT80ZgMZk

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AMV
Madara Uchia - Monster


I like it. Was either this AMV or this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDl07T3UcDA

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Pro has given 2 entries as their Round 4 cinematic trailer. This is disqualified and please vote Con. Pro must not ever do that and apologise profusely otherwise hand me the win 100% thank you.

This has made it so that I can't give the second link as my own cinematic, this is a toxic strategy as now if I even give a related Madara or Eren AMV, it will look staged.
Original Soundtrack
Avirl Lavigne - Anything but Ordinary


Close second and third were:
Avril Lavigne - Falling Fast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt75fGC2tZ8
THIS IS NOT THE SOUNDTRACK FOR ANYTHING AND HE NOW PUTS 2 MORE SONGS TO STOP ME BEING ABLE TO PICK THEM OR HAVE CINEMATICS WITH THEM AS THE SONG, THIS IS DIRTY PLAY FROM PRO.

he denies doing it, only to go ahead and do it again.

My R5 are as such:

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Cinematic
Eminem & 2Pac - Ivar The Boneless  [series cinematic trailer for Vikings, fan-made and focused on the primary Antagonist]

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Plain Song From Media Production

Added:
--> @RationalMadman
This is too long :/ I don't have the time
#4
Added:
You were going to use Avril Lavigne or Attack on Titan even though in previous pickings none of them had to do with them?
Clearly false about the similar part. You can use courtesy call Attack on Titan as your number 1 because that wasn't the one I picked. It was my second choice. Since I was only allowed 1 for each you could have easily used my Attack on Titan Courtesy call if you wanted to.
Instigator
#3
Added:
No, what you did was link extra so that I couldn't use it myself or use something similar to it without seeming filthy.
Contender
#2
Added:
To people who don't know what I did was. I added more than 1 song that could have been what I picked. That is not going to be voted on instead can simply be another song to listen to. I thought I didn't need to say this but since my opponent doesn't understand I am sure there are other people who won't understand either.
Instigator
#1
#1
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Winner 1 point
Reason:
R1: a
love the minimalist feel, the slow mo and matching with the song was great: and the quiet build up really felt theatrical : 8
B: this reminded me of Royksop, love the down tempo and softer feel, struck a great emotional chord with me: 8
R2: alove me some MGS, great game, but Imo the trailer didn’t age well. The build up was great prior to the main drop, but the rest was a bit disjointed: 5
B: this brought back memories! The song is not the best Zelda song in my opinion, but it’s a nice soft tune that brings back some good memories! 7
R3: a) this was just a bit odd; kinds snazzy but get a little cookie cutter: 4
B.) this is a really unique song, very funky, kinda jazzy and not the type of thing I’ve heard year in any battle, this really grew on me, and made me think a little of a take on jamiraqui- I really, really liked this one! 9
R4a) build up was great, song was not: the build up and fight was good then kinda fizzles out: 5
R4b) average metal shouty track: goes well with the game style imo, but I can’t tell whether it’s a great song or not: 6
R5a) ugh Avril lavigne: 5
B.) Ugh Avril Lavigne: 5
Total: 62
R1: a: seemed a bit of a knock off of pros round 1 in terms of game feel, but the music seemed out of place with the song: 5
B: I heard this in another anime debate. I loved the feel of this, and the variations of tocata and fugue in d! 8
R2: a very theatric feel! This one went brilliantly with the music, the first major fight really synched up perfectly, but got a little more disjoint at the 2 minute mark. It peaked then and didn’t recover. Still great: 8
B: great song, really conjoured up the right feelings of emotion: 8
R3: a.) this was just an odd mash up. The song didn’t go with the visuals well at all; while the song was good, it was a terrible visualization: 3
B.) a nice middle of the road emotional song, hearing the low quality synth backing violin let the song down a bit for me; but wasn’t too bad: 7
R4: a) this did nothing for me at all. No context, no direction, visuals didn’t go well with the song, I’m not even sure what this was: 3
B.) this was just a rap song. There didn’t seem to be anything particular special, it wasn’t for anything in particular, nor was it an ost: it wasn’t that great so 6
R5a:) ugh another song that failed to sync up or match up in anyway with the video, it’s just a rap song and clips of vikings: 4
R5b nice dramatic theme, kinda cookie cutter basic attempt: it was good but not great: 7.
Total 59
Pro wins 62/59