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Bestiality should not be illegal in all cases

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PsychometricBrain
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Bestiality - Sexual intercourse between a human and a non-human animal
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R1. Pro's case; Con's Case
R2. Pro Rebuttal; Con Rebuttal
R3. Pro Rebuttal & Summary ; Con Rebuttal & Summary

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--> @Alec @GuitarSlinger

Apparently we have homework now LOL

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--> @BrotherDThomas

The Law of Moses was changed with Jesus. Please know this

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GuitarSlinger,

Furthermore, I do not have the time to hold a bible school here at DebateArt for the totally inept fake Christians like you, where you don’t even know where Jesus proposes that the Old Testament writings are to be followed by all JEWISH Christians today! Seemingly, you don’t have the sense to feel embarrassed over you not knowing.

The irony is the fact that if I have to show you where Jesus purports the following of the the Old Testament, then this would only add even more egg upon your face in embarrassment! Therefore, I am cutting you some slack, where you can thank me later.

TO SAVE FACE, YOUR HOMEWORK TONIGHT IS THE FOLLOWING:

Address the aforementioned 5 verses above that specifically show that we TRUE Jewish Christians are to follow the Old Testament today.

Find by yourself, or if you need help from a pedophile priest, the passages that state with specificity, and without any Satanic apologetics or insidious hermeneutic spin doctoring, that Jesus states we’re to follow the Old Testament today in His Sermon on the Mount.

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In behalf of Jesus you struck a nerve! You state that you are a Hell Bound Catholic because of Jesus? What a poor lame excuse you use to be associated with such a disgusting pagan denomination called Catholicism. You could pick any of the other Denominations that DO NOT have hanging over them a blatant pedophile hierarchy problem with their subsequent coverups, or be independent, but yet you choose the pagan Catholic faith. What an embarrassing joke.

Before I continue to show you to be Satanic towards Jesus, you don’t get something for nothing, understood? Therefore, you failed to address the following godly passages that stipulate from JESUS HIMSELF that He DOES NOT CHANGE and ALL of His inspired words are FLAWLESS, therefore Jesus’ words in the Old Testament writings are to be followed today. Do you understand simple biblical logic 101?

"God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, THAT HE SHOULD CHANGE HIS MIND. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?" (Numbers 23:19

"EVERY WORD OF GOD IS FLAWLESS; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.“ (Proverbs 30:5)

In the name of Jesus, I will add 3 more DISTINCT verses that show the Old Testament is to be followed, of which, you are also too specifically address. Remember, Jesus is watching you, so do not run away from His direct word. (Hebrews 4:13)

“Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.” (James 1:22)

Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.” (Matthew 4:4)

He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.” (Luke 11:28)

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--> @BrotherDThomas

Seems I struck a nerve lol. Sounds like your itching for a debate :)

eh, while horrific and evil, the homosexual problem within the priesthood is not the first scandal within the Church. Hell, some of Jesus' first disciples and apostles coudn't accept His teachings, they betrayed Him, abandoned Him, etc.To act as if the current horrific scandal is the first time Jesus' followers did terrible things is to actually be ignorant to the Church and it's history. I'm Catholic-- not because of the priests, the bishops or the Popes, but because of Jesus.

I am not, and did not re-write the Bible as you claim in your comment (nice try though). This conversation is actually getting quite fun. If you can do me this favor:

- what verse/passage of the Bible does Jesus specifically say in his sermon on the mount that the OT is to be followed at all times?
- while we are at it, what version of the Bible are you referencing, and how are you so sure your version is the authoritative version? A simple sentence like "I didn't say you stole the money" can have a multitude of interpretations based on what words you emphasize. Imagine how a group of books like the Bible can be misconstrued if folks do not interpret it correctly. The question for you is: how do YOU know that YOU are interpreting specific passages from the Bible correctly? I've had arguments where people claim to have read MLK's "Letter from a Birmingham Jail" and say things like "this is exactly what is meant when MLK said this". I'm like-- how do you know? Same applies to the Bible.
- You take one law from the OT and make the claim that applies to all men in all times for all eternity-- but no where in the Bible does the Bible ever say that. The Bible never says the laws are to be applied to everyone everywhere all the time. Saying it's "flawless" is not the same. Nice try though

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Actually your quote was in the old tsetement so it doesn't apply now. We dont kill people

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GuitarSlinger,

YOUR UNGODLY QUOTE: " ... just because God commanded certain laws to a certain people at a certain point in history doesn't necessarily mean that those laws still apply to people today ..."

With you being a Hell bound Catholic that supports pedophile priests and their eventful coverups, I didn't expect any other answer than what you have insidiously provided!

As a TRUE Christian I have to accept ALL of the Judeo-Christian bible, therefore in you trying to rewrite the Bible to save face, will not be tolerated in the name of Jesus.

Relative to the passages in question, Exodus 22:19 and Leviticus 20:15-16, where you Satanically state that they do not have to be followed today, then what part of this godly passage don't you understand? "God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, THAT HE SHOULD CHANGE HIS MIND. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?" (Numbers 23:19) GET IT?!

Since our Yahweh/Jesus God DOES NOT change His mind, then the aforementioned passages are to be followed today, period! Therefore, do you want to call our Jesus a LIAR to following said passages since He DOES NOT CHANGE HIS MIND? The people that he referred to in said passages were His Creation, the JEWS, and as you should be biblically aware, all Christians have to be JEWS to follow Jesus. 2+2=4.

Additionally, we have this passage to follow as well regarding that anyone that practices Bestiality should be put to death: "EVERY WORD OF GOD IS FLAWLESS; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.“ (Proverbs 30:5) EVERY WORD includes the Old Testament writings, understood?!

You have obviously never read Jesus' Sermon on the Mount that explicitly states that the Old Testament is to be followed at all times. I expected nothing less from a Catholic.

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https://www.bna.com/uploadedImages/BNA_V2/Legal/Knowledge_Center/News/Litigation_and_E-Discovery/bestiality1.png states that it is legal in some states.

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Whether I'm a Christian or not is im-material to the debate. And actually, I do not like to argue points from a Christian/Biblical perspective, unless it's a theological discussion-- those arguments/points get nowhere with someone who an atheist. I can say "Well the Bible says this: ________" and the atheist will say "But I don't believe in your Bible, so there!"

Incidentally, the reference to the Mosaic/Levitica/Exodusl laws are sometimes mis-used. People refer to those specific laws, like the ones in Leviticus and Exodus, and seem to point and say "SEE! THOSE LAWS STILL APPLY!" Not necessarily, just because God commanded certain laws to a certain people at a certain point in history doesn't necessarily mean that those laws still apply to people today-- one must look at context, the rest of the Bible and, just as important, what the Church teaches.

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Since "GuitarSlinger" is an assumed Christian, then he should adamantly bring forth that our Jewish God named Jesus stated that Bestiality is a sin and that anyone that performs this horrific act are to be MURDERED! Therefore, if the TRUE Christian faith was followed, then this problem would take care of itself in time.

“Whoever lies with an animal shall be put to death." (Exodus 22:19)

"If a man lies with an animal, he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal. If a woman approaches any animal and lies with it, you shall kill the woman and the animal; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." (Leviticus 20:15-16)

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