Instigator / Pro
7
1387
rating
34
debates
22.06%
won
Topic
#1129

The FBI should make it's database of child porn viewable to the public.

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
3
24
Better sources
2
16
Better legibility
2
8
Better conduct
0
8

After 8 votes and with 49 points ahead, the winner is...

oromagi
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Two weeks
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
56
1922
rating
117
debates
97.44%
won
Description

Please message me before accepting this debate. I want to debate somebody who doesn't have any sort of mental disabilities.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pro pretty much lied about Con's concession for a tied debate, which is extremely poor conduct.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pro's final round statement was not topical, leaving this as a full forfeit (every round, or every round after the first). Plus lying about objective reality is a huge pet peeve of mine (had a creeper obsessed with me back on DDO, he made up a bunch of statements I was supposed to have made, and then cried about how unfair objective reality was for discriminating against him via not warping to what he wants to have happened...).

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

FF:
Free
(Votes)
For
(Me)

:)

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Disclaimer:

This vote will contain some of my personal beliefs, this is however almost irrelevant as my vote still is objective regardless. Now onto my vote.

A very sad turn of events when one side tries to cheat and lie. Wylted blatantly lied about orogami's supposed " PM " which detailed that they both " agreed " the debate should be a tie.

I must say I am rather disappointed in Wylted as I expected much more from him in terms of debate conduct.

Take your loss with dignity and the fact you have to resort to forging lies only highlights that in the end you have no sense of honor and upon examining an earlier lie in one of his previous debates, you be ashamed of yourself for trying to character assassinate bsh1 which could have ended with him getting his mod status removed or possibly banned.

Ultimately I MUST award all points to Con as he didn't resort to making up lies and didn't FF the majority of the rounds.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pro's lie is certainly not surprising since he is known to have lied before in his debate with bsh. That being said, lying to sway voters is absolutely abhorrent and is conduct that I feel is worthy of a 7-point merit loss.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Conduct-

Reason 1:Wylted attempted to trick voters into thinking Oromagi agreed to a tie, he fails to prove this and Oro denies it. I can only believe Wylted lied.

Reason 2:Wylted forfeits many rounds, and when he didn't in Round 5, he lied to try to manipulate voters.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pro forfeited. Plus apparently Pro attempted to sway the voters. Votes go to Con. Love the debate topic, though

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

shady tactics,bad no no