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1481
rating
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Topic
#1187

Being vegan is a crime

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
9
27
Better sources
16
18
Better legibility
7
9
Better conduct
1
9

After 9 votes and with 30 points ahead, the winner is...

oromagi
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Twelve hours
Max argument characters
1,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
63
1922
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117
debates
97.44%
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Description

Being vegan should be a crime in my opinion, as as humans should consume meat. My opponent must prove me wrong

"Perhaps an xtra peanut butter sandwich at lunch would serve public interests better than criminal penalties."

LOL

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@Barney
@Snoopy
@Club
@Patmos
@WolfHunterWhite

Thanks, all 4 voting!

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@WolfHunterWhite

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>Reported Vote: WolfHunterWhite // Mod action: [Removed]
>Points Awarded: 3 points to pro for arguments - 1 point to con for S&G

>Reason for Decision: Being a vegan isn't a crime, only if you are... well... idk shoving your kids into all of this. I have been friends with someone, who thought it was right to force their son into all of this.

Reason for Mod Action> This a full forfeit debate. Voters may not award a balance of points to the forfeiting side

Voter is also ineligible. In order to vote, an account must: (1) Read the site’s COC AND have completed 2 non-troll/non-FF debate OR have 100 forum posts
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@Dr.Franklin

Thanks for voting!

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@oromagi

Yeah, I completely agree. There are words that we socially should deem unacceptable, but I dont believe in legislating according to our social standards. I think that "retard" can be used correctly to describe the mentally challenged. It seems more respectful than calling them "special".

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@bmdrocks21

NTYAB, In that discussion I noted that 'retard,' french for slow, used to be the polite usage compared to more coarse usages: idiot, fool, ass, halfwit, nincompoop, dunce, dolt, ignoramus, cretin, imbecile, dullard, moron, simpleton, clod, etc. I don't think Daffy Duck ever called Elmer Fudd retard because that would have been too polite a word. Now we insist on super-syllabic anti-informational substitutes like "developmentally challenged" that only make the speaker feel better about themselves and offer little enough comfort to the afflicted. I'm gay & deaf myself and so fairly accustomed to adapting the most assaultive invective into amulets of protection. So, I'm okay with retard in most any context.

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@bmdrocks21

" I'm for the most part a free speech absolutist." ( It's hard to resist the punchline: "go fuck yourself" ) I also consider myself fairly radical regarding free speech although I often assert that empathy and civility are essential supports of that radicalism. I find the notion of swear words or inherently forbidden words in a secular forum astonishing.

good topic for debate. When debaters request "no foul language" in desc I always comply but fantasize about running the foulest kiritik I can imagine.

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@oromagi

I would have to look into that thread. I'm for the most part a free speech absolutist.

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@bmdrocks21

A subject that is apparently worthy of a remarkable amount of discussion.

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/2069/the-word-tard

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@oromagi

I see he called club a "retard". Is that a bannable offense?

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@bsh1

Was pro banned?

This is the fourth debate where I've been left wondering for how long my opponent is banned....I brought this uncertainty up last week regarding the need for ban log.

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@bmdrocks21

intel is fuzzy but I think its a ban, temp or perm based on some interaction w/ Club and/or ALT stuff.

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@oromagi

Did he delete his account?

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@oromagi

It was SOMEBODY not Somebody.

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@Club

naw, Somebody hasn't been on DART for months.

https://www.debateart.com/participants/Somebody/debates?type=finished

free win for SOMEBODY

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@Average12

Good. Thx, Chris.

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@oromagi

Im sorry, the 1,000 characters was a typo I meant to put 10,000. Abbreviations and links do not matter its fine

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@Average12

thx, Chris: I really like this short format. Do you have an opinion about abbreviations and/or links to citation?

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@TheAtheist

How are you going to tell me what my debate is about sir. My points are that it is unhealthy and hurt the earth thats why i say its crime. You proved my point by bringing up smoking being unhealthy and should that be banned

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@TheAtheist

"How can you prove that all humans being vegan would hurt the Earth?" Look it up

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@TheAtheist

Yes smoking should be banned

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@Average12

Humans can get proteins from not only meat, but mushrooms, beans, some grains, etc. How can you prove that all humans being vegan would hurt the Earth? And also, this debate is not about whether vegans are unhealthy or hurt the earth. This is about if vegans should be banned, and your reasons are not enough for banning them. Smoking is unhealthy, should we ban smoking?

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@TheAtheist

Humans need protein and you get protein from meat. If every human on earth became vegan that they would have a negative impact on earth

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@Discipulus_Didicit

Not my problem

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@Average12

Why do so many American christians think that athiests want to make religion a crime?

I mean, I get that is what the propaganda your church and society throws at you but isn't it pretty obviously not true?

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@Average12

Just because I don't agree with Christians, doesn't mean I want to make Christianity a crime. Don't commit the strawman fallacy here.

Being vegan does harm? To who and how? Doesn't being vegan do less harm, since they don't kill animals?

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@oromagi

Hi your welcome. Nice game of thrones debate. I'll let u make your first argument

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@TheAtheist

Would you say that same statement towards Christians?
Being vegan does more harm than good

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@TheAtheist

Bingo

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@Average12

Huh? Why should someone's personal choice that affects no one be a crime?

easy win to Con

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@oromagi

He does have a huge burden of proof. I love to eat meat, but the research I have seen shows vegan diets can be really healthy. There are a lot of other reasons this wouldn't make sense, but I won't back seat debate.

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@bmdrocks21

That’s what the man said. 1000 words is tough. I wonder if Chris will allow heavy abbreviation and link in comments?

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@Average12

12 hours per argument?

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@Average12

Thx, Chris

https://www.debateart.com/debates/736

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@Average12

I would like to accept, but I need a break from debating. I'm mostly vegan.