Life is created by God
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Pro: This is not an endorsement of you being right, merely of the debate outcome being akin to full forfeiture.
Con: Always do your work in a text editor (Google Docs for example saves itself as you write, so no data loss even if your computer crashes), not on the webpage.
Were this a single round debate, or even a two round debate, I would give this to con. Even while both sides forfeited in R3, that round still happened; pro left off with his defenses (weak as they were) unchallenged, whereas con left off having dropped everything (not the same as a forfeit, it was more like a waived round, but still not ideal... the simple phrase 'still not proof' would have gone a long way).
So pro tried to prove God didit with a bunch of numbers (largely false numbers, but such did not come up in the debate arguments), and carbon based organisms having some success at eating carbon based plants. Con said it doesn't prove God and that bad things exist, but then effectively dropped out for R2 and R3.
Pro starts off the debate by pointing out some numerical similarities in the Universe. For example, he says that the Sun is 400 times bigger than the moon, and the Moon is 400 times closer to the Earth than the Sun. This is false, the Moon is actually only 389 times closer and not 400. Many of his other similarities are also false, such as the claim that the cirfumference of the Moon is 27.322% of the Earth's circumference. The actual number is 27.251%, not 27.322%. With a little rounding here and there, it's possible to twist the facts and present the universe as one massive set of coincidences. This, however, is not the case. His other "coincidences" are well-known scientific facts and have nothing to do with chance, such as the fact that the number of protons and number of electrons in the universe is the same.
Pro's second argument for intelligent design is the special healing abilities of some plants. "Some plants are good" does not mean "God did it". As Con points out in his first round argument, there are thousands of plants which have no healing abilities, and thousands more which are harmful to humans. Therefore, the argument that some plants can heal humans does not prove the existence of a supernatural being, so Pro's points quickly fall apart.
Con's argument is simple but precise. He points out that Pro's coincidences are just rounded up to sound incredible, and that there is no reason for an intelligent being to create harmful plants. Furthermore, he says that even if this all were true, this is still not proof of God, since a few coincidences and medicinal plants does not prove anything.
Pro essentially repeats the same things in his R2 argument. He repeats the claim that the Moon is 400 times closer to Earth than the Sun, which is false. He repeats another claim, which is also false. The equality of protons and neutrons exists not because "God counted them", but because protons are positive and electrons are negative. Simply repeating your arguments over and over is not proof of anything. Pro was already destroyed in the first round, and his second round argument did nothing to bring him back.
Finally, I would like to say that Pro's grammar and organizing is the WORST I HAVE SEEN IN MY LIFE. He never capitalized any words. He skips twenty lines between each paragraph. He arbitrarily uses bold and italic for no reason whatsoever. Pro's arguments are very hard to read and I assume he's just doing this to confuse his opponents. So, Pro wins because of better arguments and much better formating. R'amen.
We will debate about it
Look, would you rather listen to some site or an actual calculation using verified sources? 'Approximately 27' and 'Exactly 27.3' are two very different numbers. Like I said in my vote, all of those coincidences are a result of estimation. For example, before we talked about the number 400, and the number 389 turned out to be right. But someone could easily say that the number is "around 400" and he wouldn't be wrong. So the actual numbers differ, it's just that people round them up to prove their own points.
The reason why i am moving towards the
my right hand is 8 inches my left hand is exactly 8 inches god measured it out. Is so people don't argue with me with stuff like this.you can clearly see both your hands are exactly the same. Even i am amazed at this i thought it would be an centimeter off. i sure it can be slightly off but i believe the info is programmed in our DNA. so i believe the numbers can get corrupted
https://www.debateart.com/debates/1273/life-is-created-by-god
i have 5 debates already but bring it on. I will set it up
no the problem is that every site i go to either says 27.3
https://blog.world-mysteries.com/science/unbelievable-cosmic-coincidences/
and or approximately 27
he diameter of the Moon is 3,474 km. Now, let's compare this to the Earth. The diameter of the Earth is 12,742 km. This means that the Moon is approximately 27% the size of the Earth.
https://answersdrive.com/how-big-is-the-moon-in-comparison-to-the-earth-3849591
. and then some fellow comes along and just google those 2 numbers. does his own math. then gets nearly the exact same number and then say its wrong. look at it from my perspective i am obviously going to trust all the internet sites then the fellow with his own numbers.
Would you like to have a debate on this topic? About whether life was created by God or not.
Distance from the Earth to the Sun is 149,600,000 kilometers [1].
Distance from the Earth to the Moon is is 384,400 kilometers [2].
149.6 million divided by 384,400 equals 389. It's called mathematics, which you are apparently unable to do. Maybe next time try to perform the calculations yourself instead of just citing random sources? Calling my calculations "bad math" is not an argument.
Circumference of the Moon is 10,821 kilometers [3].
Circumference of Earth is 40,075 kilometers [4].
10,821 divided by 40,075 equals 0.27001, which is roughly 27 percent. This is far from 27.3, which you claim is the actual number. Next time, do the calculations yourself and don't trust pseudoscientic websites.
Your arbitrary crap can easily be disrpoved with Wikipedia and a calculator. Try again.
[1] - https://www.space.com/17081-how-far-is-earth-from-the-sun.html
[2] - https://www.space.com/18145-how-far-is-the-moon.html
[3] - https://www.space.com/18135-how-big-is-the-moon.html
[4] - https://www.space.com/17638-how-big-is-earth.html
find me a site that says the moon is 27.25 percent compared to the moon. along with the 383 number
Oragami is the only one with those numbers. he did his own Bad math. Every site on the internet mimics what i say. you will not find the numbers you need to back it up unless you go to Wikipedia like oragami and do your own math
https://blog.world-mysteries.com/science/unbelievable-cosmic-coincidences/
"The Moon has a radius of 1,079 miles and a volume is 5.2 billion cubic miles, which makes the Moon about 27.3%"
https://stargazingpro.com/how-big-is-the-moon-compared-to-earth/
(0.273 of Earths)
https://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_Moon%27s_radius_compared_with_earths
The Moon's polar circumference is 27.3% the size of the Earth's polar circumference. The Moon orbits the earth every 27.3 Earth days and turns 10920.8 km at the equator every 27.3 days.
https://moonnumerology.blogspot.com/
The number 27.322, which we have just observed is the number of days it takes the Moon to orbit the Earth is highly significant, both singly and in its multiplies in the Earth, Moon, Sun relationship. For example, the Sun is exactly 109.288 times the size of the Earth - which is 4 X 27.322.
" Even modern measuring systems were taken into account because the circumference of the Moon in kilometres is 10928.8 kilometres, which is 400 X 27.322. (And there is that '400' again, which you may recall is the number of times bigger the Sun is than the Moon.) "
https://www.whobuiltthemoon.com/so-far-so-good.html
Find me a site that says what your claiming. 4 sites
Sorry About the forfeit. I been busy and i forgot. Completely my fault. I had family come over And night shift work. did not realize it had been a week
Always write in a text editor.