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#1217

Saudi Arabia is the Most Evil Country in the World

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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After 8 votes and with 44 points ahead, the winner is...

TheAtheist
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My position: Saudi Arabia is the most evil country in the world.
Opponent's position: Saudi Arabia is not the most evil country in the world.
Please provide sources for statistics, quotes, etc.

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Evil - profoundly immoral and wicked.

people have been forfeiting a lot

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@Trent0405

Firstly, yes. If you extend the idea that love matters most out to social issues, it can easily become a non-economic thing too. The problem is that both Wings begin to defy their economic principle when they become socially like that, for the reasons I already stated in previous posts here as well as others you can imagine.

When you blackmail people to share, the ones blackmailing them can become tyrannical yes. That immediately means your society isn't truly Left-Wing. When you have the rich (who were cunning, smart, hard-working) lead, they favour their offspring and close buddies and soon the system is no longer based on the strong and smart preying on the weak and dumb respectively... It's just favouritism and Illuminati.

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@RationalMadman

so it's an economic thing

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@Trent0405

Far Left is everyone shares everything with everyone as much as possible.

Far Right is everyone fights with everyone, takes what they can and if possible scams people as much as they can if the people are stupid enough to fall for it, then they deserve to be ridden of that wealth.

The fundamental philosophy of the Left Wing is that nothing matters more than love. The fundamental philosophy of the Right Wing is that nothing matters more than greed.

Both are toxic in practise, the Left Wing is clearly more adorable in concept.

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@RationalMadman

K, so what makes far left and far right then if it isn't tyranny vs anarchy

Saudi Arabia is not exactly Fascist but that's because it's not fully Sharia Law either, people don't realise this. Saudi is a corporate bordello that masquerades as Fascist (yes that's right, it pretends to be Fascist). Google it to understand.

https://nationsofns.fandom.com/wiki/Corporate_Bordello

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@Trent0405

I agree with you Conservatives that the left-wing are wrong to call Fascism 'far-right'. Fascism is not far-right because it defies right-wing concepts like allowing the oppressed to climb the ladder freely and such. I disagree with you that bigger government = left-wing. Bigger government = more beaureacratic, which actually has nothing to do with either Tyranny or Anarchy. Social Democracies are generally the biggest governments in the world and are left-leaning but overall Centrist.

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@RationalMadman

and government tyranny then should be far left

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@RationalMadman

Maybe I'm misinformed, I've been told when governments become too big that makes them far left, but when they're too small then they're far right.

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@Trent0405

Fascism is right-leaning centrist Tyranny. Communism that's been done (not as it was intended) is nothing at all in terms of wings. It literally is self-imploding and I'll explain why. It is wingless Tyranny that is not left-wing because it's run by elite against elitism (that makes no sense, I know).

Anarchism is impossible. You do not ever have anarchy, ever. I will prove this to you if you want.

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@logicae

Right is referring to conservatives, while left is referring to liberals but it's also used to classify governments, Anachism is on the far right, while Fascism and Communism are on the far left.

I usually don't comment on these kinds of things, but what does "Right" and "Left" mean?

Is it political like Republican and Democrat? Is it designating types of world views such as Right for limited government and Left for expanded government? Is it conservative vs liberal, or what?

It seems like everyone has some type of definition, but we attack each other without recognizing what they are.

To Truth!

-logicae

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@TheAtheist

What about Iran?

Islam is far left???? HAHAHAHAHAH I CANNOT!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU MADE ME DO A DR. FRANKLIN ON YOU!

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@Mharman

Shouldn't accept debates you can't finish.

Islam is far left

What do you expect from such a far-right nation? Let me guess, Mharman will bring NK and call it Communist to then say the left wing is evil. Yeah, see, the thing is NK is not left-wing it is actually a centrist tinpot dictatorship tyranny.

Looking forward to how this debate unravels