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Is Antifa a terrororganisation?

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After 7 votes and with 46 points ahead, the winner is...

oromagi
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I'm not going to write down rules but I think you know what is okay and not

Antifa does have some terrorists. Though, it's not really an organization.

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@oromagi

That makes some sense, but there is a little detail I feel was missed. Your definition says that " Hierarchy and inequality may be viewed as natural results of traditional social differences or the competition in market economies".

It states that the right-wing believes in naturally occurring difference caused because everyone is different. The KKK wanted to enforce differences in an unnatural manner.

Perhaps a debate on this some day. I am not too informed on the matter as of now- just curious.

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@bmdrocks21

What makes the kkk "right-wing"? Wikipedia, for one.

"Right-wing politics hold that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable, typically supporting this position on the basis of natural law, economics, or tradition. Hierarchy and inequality may be viewed as natural results of traditional social differences or the competition in market economies. The term right-wing can generally refer to "the conservative or reactionary section of a political party or system"."

They supported democrats, who are left-wing.

Democrat/Republican are party labels that don't necessarily correspond to left-wing/right-wing archetypes. The Klan is pretty exclusively all about the politics of human hierarchies which makes the Klan right-wing by definition, whether or not they voted or who for.

Sounds like a debate to me.

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@oromagi

What makes the kkk "right-wing"? They supported democrats, who are left-wing.

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@oromagi

Fair point. I should correct myself, they are not truly equivalent evils. I think I would rather say that aside from scaled-down severity, they are scarily comparable. Perhaps this is where the equivalency claims derive from... kind of like people claiming that the US gov has concentration camps at the Mexican border, although I personally disagree with such a comparison.

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@MisterChris

I'm no defender of antifa but I make a big distinction between wrong-headed college kids and right-wing terrorists. No murder vs lots of murder (22 this week) seems like an essential dividing line.

https://www.debateart.com/debates/1075/antifa-is-equivalent-to-the-kkk

I personally have a hard time classifying Antifa as anything other than a KKK-esque organization, although, it seems we won't be getting any response from Pro anytime soon.