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Topic
#1234

Is Christianity A Good Moral System To Follow?

Status
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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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After not so many votes...

It's a tie!
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
Two weeks
Max argument characters
15,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
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1641
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Description

-- INTRO --
This is about whether Christianity is a good moral system to follow or not. It is focused on the New Testament and it's teachings, as it is called CHRISTianity for a reason, that reason being that it focuses on Jesus Christ and his teachings. Therefore, all arguments should center primarily around Jesus Christ/the New Testament. Secondly, there is no objective Christian standpoint, and what is truly taught for Christians should really be up for debate as well.
-- STRUCTURE --
1. Opening
2. Rebuttals
3. Rejoinders
4. Rebuttals/Close
-- DEBATER OBJECTIVES --
Pro - must sufficiently prove that Christianity is a good moral system while simultaneously disproving Con's arguments.
Con - must sufficiently prove that Christianity is a bad moral system while simultaneously disproving Pro's arguments.
-- DEFINITIONS --
Christianity - the religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, or its beliefs and practices.
Good - to be desired or approved of.
Moral system - a system of coherent, systematic, and reasonable principles, rules, ideals, and values which work to form one's overall perspective.
Follow - act according to (an instruction or precept).
-- RULES --
1. No forfeits
2. Citations must be provided in the text of the debate
3. No new arguments in the final speeches
4. Observe good sportsmanship and maintain a civil and decorous atmosphere
5. No trolling
6. No "kritiks" of the topic (challenging assumptions in the resolution)
7. For all resolutional terms, individuals should use commonplace understandings that fit within the logical context of the resolution and this debate
8. The burden of proof is shared; Pro must show why Christianity is a good moral system to follow, and Con must show why it is a bad moral system to follow. Simply rebutting one's opponent's arguments is not sufficient to win the debate.
9. Violation of any of these rules merits a loss.

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@Ramshutu

You do know that I have respond to your arguments, right? And, if you want to know what the comment is, here it is.

Do you need studies to show that Christianity is the cause of that. Also, don't cite Matthew 5:18. And, 1 Corinthians 14 is Paul quoting something that the Corinthians originally said to him, which the then refutes. I suggest you read Daniel B. Wallace's work on this one. Also, the NT says that a woman's hair is here covering. In fact, you should read the book "Women and Worship at Corinth". And, stoning gays was done away.
Jesus wasn't a communist. And, love of money is rooted in all evil. Also, the word agape doesn't mean modern sentimentality. Again,1 Corinthians 14 is Paul quoting something that the Corinthians originally said to him, which the then refutes.
Sources: https://www.amazon.com/Women-Worship-Corinth-Rhetorical-Corinthians/dp/1498201466
https://faithfulphilosophy.wordpress.com/2018/09/04/how-matthew-5-doesnt-prove-we-should-continue-following-the-old-testament/

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@Barney

:( WELP

No votes!?!?!? Wow. Good job to both sides, though.

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@Ramshutu
@Speedrace

Sorry I will not be able to vote on this in time.

I have not finished reading this, but I liked both sides of what I saw. My guess as to how I would grade the outcome, would be against Christianity unless con took a little time to show the alternative (null?) as worse, in which case Christianity (while flawed) would be a marked improvement to the lives and greater community of those who follow (or attempt to follow) it. However this may have happened, and responses I have not predicted could have refuted it.

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@Speedrace

Yeah, I shouldn't have said that.

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@Speedrace

Yeah, I couldn't really say that.

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@Ramshutu

I noticed you didn't respond to my comment.

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@David

And, I have respond to the argument that Ramshutu gave.

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@Dynasty

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>Reported Vote: Dynasty // Mod action: Removed

>Points Awarded: 7 points to pro

>Reason for Decision:FF for the boys.

>Reason for Mod Action: In order for users to be eligible to vote on debates, user's current accounts must reflect that they have read the site's COC AND either completed at least 2 non-troll debates without any forfeits or posted 100 forum posts. Any user who attempts to vote without having these criteria met will have their vote removed. If a user repeatedly attempts to vote without having these criteria met, their voting privileges may be suspended until they meet this criteria.

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@Barney

I will read it next time.

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@David
@Ramshutu
@Dynasty

Dynasty, your vote contradicts the objective content of the debate to the point that even the person you're voting in favor of wholly disagrees with your RFD. Plus you have not yet read the site's rules and code of conduct, which is required before beginning to cast votes. As such, your vote will soon be removed by the admin team.

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@Dynasty

Definitely was not an FF...

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@Ramshutu

Do you need studies to show that Christianity is the cause of that. Also, don't cite Matthew 5:18. And, 1 Corinthians 14 is Paul quoting something that the Corinthians originally said to him, which the then refutes. I suggest you read Daniel B. Wallace's work on this one. Also, the NT says that a woman's hair is here covering. In fact, you should read the book "Women and Worship at Corinth". And, stoning gays was done away.

Jesus wasn't a communist. And, love of money is rooted in all evil. Also, the word agape doesn't mean modern sentimentality. Again,1 Corinthians 14 is Paul quoting something that the Corinthians originally said to him, which the then refutes.

Sources: https://www.amazon.com/Women-Worship-Corinth-Rhetorical-Corinthians/dp/1498201466
https://faithfulphilosophy.wordpress.com/2018/09/04/how-matthew-5-doesnt-prove-we-should-continue-following-the-old-testament/

Due to the shared BoP (one must prove good, the other bad), a tie is possible.

I am keeping my fingers crossed for other voters, as I am working every day for then next week, and recently bumped into an awful Christian I used to know (on detailed debates like this, I prefer voting from a wholly neutral stance, rather than having to consider if my bias is affecting anything).

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@Barney

I wonder who will win :)

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@Ramshutu
@Speedrace

Very short voting time for something so long... I'll try to get around to it; sadly I suspect I will be the only voter.

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@Ramshutu

"I never said this: Con said Jesus said the quote, and all I did was correct him by saying the quote was by John."

Frustrating

Good debate though!

This did not finish quite in time for this year's HoF, but I've added it to my list of great debates for future consideration.

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@Barney

For real!!

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@Ramshutu
@Speedrace

I am very glad to hear this debate will be getting proper closure.

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@Ramshutu

Scratch that, I WON'T BE STOPPED

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@Ramshutu

I won't make it in time :/ we're moving houses so really sorry dude I was too busy ugh

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@Ramshutu

Alrighty thanks dude

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@Speedrace

Will do my best, but can’t promise :/

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@Ramshutu

I know XD I really do and I will this time

Could you possibly remind me to finish tomorrow night? I'm too busy today

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@Speedrace

:(

You need to write in another app, or program : then transfer when you’re ready to publish.

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@Ramshutu

It was all deleted. Let me go bang my head into a wall right now

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@Ramshutu

Below

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@Speedrace

6 hours.

I submitted my argument, why isn't it here?

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@Ramshutu

Studying for SAT so I'll probably just squeeze this in tonight

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@Speedrace

2 day warning!

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@Ramshutu

Ok lol

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@Speedrace

Nearly there. Just tweaking, and trying to reduce the size :)