Instigator / Pro
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1485
rating
91
debates
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Topic
#1265

Democratic Party vs Republican Party

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
6
0
Better sources
4
0
Better legibility
2
2
Better conduct
2
0

After 2 votes and with 12 points ahead, the winner is...

David
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
15,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
2
1486
rating
4
debates
25.0%
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Description

Intro

I would like to thank YitzGoldberg for agreeing to debate this topic with me. This debate is about which party's ideology and policies best match that of the Torah

Full Topic

The Democratic Party is closer to the Torah's ideal than the Republican Party

Structures

R1: Opening arguments
R2: Rebuttals
R3: Defense
R4: Close

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@Snoopy

yep

Yitz messed up on the incarceration statistic, saying over 40% of the black population is encarcerated, when the source says that 40% of the prison population is black. 40 Percent of 2.5 million inmates would only be 1,000,000 people, a small fraction of the black population, which numbers in the tens of millions.

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@David

The Republican party is not in fact, diabolically opposed to utilizing government for improving healthcare accessibility and accountability. Many of them just have a different approach. Republicans overall seem to have a stricter adherence to federalism at this time, and they tend to promote enabling individuals and families to partake in a regulated free market (with a safety net), while a significant amount of democrats tend to promote forms of a (bipartisan) public option, single payer (partisan) etc...

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@Jonathan-Horowitz

I mentioned that I ran out of characters - which is why I like my debates to be 30,000. This is 15,000. I could definitely use a ton of Torah quotes, but his accusations needed correction first. In my next round, I will adjust to more Torah sources.

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@YitzGoldberg

On second thought, the debate is titled "Democratic Party vs Republican Party".

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@YitzGoldberg

Yitz, you have to enter the Torah into your debate. Though politics are a necessity, the debate is centered on the political stance of the Torah, not your own projection, though they are thought-provoking.

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@David

There was so much to write and debunk, I didn't have the space to quote Torah much. However, in my next round, I will jump to it.

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@YitzGoldberg

Thank you for sharing your thinking. I think we are mostly in agreement. Though I think that the Torah takes a republican view in some issues and a more democratic one in others.

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@David

I noticed a typo on my end: I meant to say that Democrats are for abortion, not against it. That aside, I should have taken more time to write out a more thorough argument in favor of Torah-Republican values. I was a little rushed, I’ll admit, but I promise that my next round will be much, much better. With that said, I feel that my argument against abortion (aside for later rebuttals), is, so far, the strongest. I look forward to your response in the debate.

I think Virt will win, although I don't know too much about the Torah.

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@David

You better not forfeit!

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@bmdrocks21

hmmm, I am afraid I cant do this one, they both forfeit a lot and are pretty good, I don't want to ruin my 4-0 streak!

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@Dr.Franklin

In your professional opinion, who has the easy W in this debate?

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@bmdrocks21

always bad,always racist always sexist,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqqwTgk8ri0

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@Dr.Franklin

Orange man very bad indeed. REEEEEE

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@bmdrocks21

orange man automatically bad

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@Dr.Franklin

Religion and Politics isn't as bad as orange man!!!!111!!

ewww, very bad no no Religion and Politics

Also, A GAY JEW, this website has lost it's mind

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@David

Thank you for sharing your thinking. I think we are mostly in agreement concerning the Torah’s view. Though it could be argued that the Torah sides with the republicans on some issues but, that is the job of the opposite (me), in which I will add in rd1 trm.

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@Jonathan-Horowitz

That was the original topic, but we realized it was way too broad so we narrowed it down some.

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@David

If you realize that Republican policies are closer to Jewish teachings, will you convert? :^)

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@YitzGoldberg

Interesting but I thought this was going to be about the Talmud's view of socialism or capitalism, though. Nevertheless, I look forward to this debate.