God measured everything out
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- God would never measure in British Imperial units which were historically inexact and variable. Our present standard inch was arrived at almost at random. The inch was traditionally defined as the width of an average man's thumb but how the average man was determined or measured is seldom explained. Of course, the average man's measurements are variables that change over time as human sizes change through the ages. [4] Since any God worth the supposing would be imagined as rather more invariable that fickle thickness of man's thumb, let us assume that God would measure in metric meters, derived from the measure of the invariable speed of light.
- PRO's measurements are rounded inches, a rather absurd scale for measuring a human face. If PRO offered these private measurement in round feet, we would obviously call foul since PRO would necessarily eliminate the small differences in measuring the left and right nostril, say, and then claim a perfect match. Well, perhaps a bit less obviously, rounding inches is likewise so large a scale that even fairly obvious differences in ear lobe length or left eyebrow vs right eyebrow would be rounded to totally unsurprisingly identical numbers.
- If PRO measured in micrometers and maybe kept the first few decimal places- many interesting and important asymmetries could be accurately recorded. Asymmetries, we should note, already apparent to the human eye without measurement- our human brains are particularly well adapted to noticing minor assymetries in human faces as an essential component of human communication.
- Nobody is perfectly symmetrical [ https://www.self.com/story/one-boob-bigger-than-the-other] and very few people are even as symmetrical as PRO's personal claims.
- PRO has only offered a long list of data based on PRO's personal features and some pet features. CON asks voters to invalidate as evidence each and every one of these highly suspect claims entirely untestable and unfalsifiable by CON.
- CON asks that voters to invalidate the entire listed data in full awareness that this eliminates 100% of PRO's R1 argument. CON recommends that PRO submit an entirely new argument or forfeit, whichever CON prefers.
- Put another way, once we toss out the long list of unfalsifiable data and requests that CON generate some unfalsifiable data, PRO's argument is a blank.
For most people, their arm span is about equal to their height. Mathematicians say the arm span to height ratio is one to one:
A lot of it has to do with genetics
"When two parties are in a discussion and one makes a claim that the other disputes, the one who makes the claim typically has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim especially when it challenges a perceived status quo. This is also stated in Hitchens's razor. Carl Sagan proposed a related criterion, the Sagan standard, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". [1]
- PRO has not yet offered any evidence that can be tested or falsified.
- CON declared PRO's R1 100% invalid and PRO has not objected or countered.
- PRO still never connects the list of measurements to God in any purposeful way.
- PRO ignored metric vs. imperial standard argument: any hypothesized creator would be more likely to measure in units that reflect universal constants such as the speed of light (metric) rather than the King of England's thumb width (imperial).
- PRO ignores CON's complaint that PRO is using the wrong scale to measure human features.
- PRO admits that his personal measurements of various bits and bobs are inexact.
"Deer have a fairly long mating season that covers from October through January. This period of time is called the rut"
- PRO has not yet offered any evidence that can be tested or falsified.
- CON declared PRO's R1 100% invalid and PRO has not objected or countered.
- PRO still never connects the list of measurements to God in any purposeful way.
- PRO ignores CON's complaint that PRO is using the wrong scale to measure human features.
- PRO admits that his personal measurements of various bits and bobs are inexact.
- deer release hormones between Oct & Jan is evidence of precision....[Biology tells us that any large multi cellular organism is going to be secreting hormones more or less constantly. We need no experiments to say with confidence that deer also release hormones in Sept and February- that's just basic biology]. PRO's evidence is manifestly false.
- PRO talks about how many creatures have even numbered features without discussing natural symmetry in cell division. PRO falsely claims that 90% of all animals have 2 eyes and 2 ears. In fact, the arthropod phylum contains about 80% of the known animals species and none of these have ears.
Pro's writing comes across as condescending to me, like Pro is talking to a 2-year-old. This may not have been intentional but anyone communicating must be careful to come across with a respectful tone, and I don't feel that Pro was showing that respect. Conduct to Con.
Pro extensively ignored rules of capitalization and punctuation, such as "god measured my arms out so they would be the exact same size,"
which not only neglects a period at the end of the sentence, but also doesn't capitalize "God," which is a proper noun AND at the beginning of the sentence.
Furthermore, "My top lips are 3 inches
My bottom lips are 3 inches" is incorrect in that you pluralize "lip" when referring to both the top and bottom together, and is referred to as a "lip" when only referencing one. There are also extra spaces in between "are" and "3" in the first line. Grammar to Con.
Spam troll debate, so not putting much into this...
“If PRO measured in micrometers and maybe kept the first few decimal places- many interesting and important asymmetries could be accurately recorded.” con also points out that God would not use rounded imperial units, and pro immediately insists on using that bad standard and further insisting that against reason God used it. He the. Gives some really bad math about how many children human women tend to have (1,000,000 each...).
As con pointed out, pro never offers any evidence for how or why his imaginary friend did all these measurements, nor anything to suggest said imaginary friend is real to have done such.
Spam debate? Yeah the liberal bias strikes again
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i found this
"yes, your arm span is about the same as your height. If you hold your arms straight out from your sides, the distance from the fingertips of one hand to the fingertips of the other is about how tall you are. Some slight variations exist, though."
https://www.answers.com/Q/Are_your_arms_the_same_length_as_your_body
what he is saying is if your arm span is 6 feet long your height is most likely going to be 6 foot tall. if your 4 foot 9 tall then your arm span is most likely going to be 4.9 though this can screw u and maybe a 4.8 happens. But i was expecting this and it reconfirms my believe that these measurements were programmed into our DNA by god.i believe that these numbers and god measurements are programmed in our DNA. That he has are DNA set so our height is always in proportionate with our arm span. .
god programs precise numbers in our dna for example god programmed the precise numbers of 2 eyes 2 ears 2 arms and 2 legs 5 fingers 5 toes. But sometimes our DNA mutates and we get 6 fingers instead of the 5. but our body's have been breaking down since the Adam ate the forbidan fruit. and honestly i expected it to not be as precise as it is. My feet are both exactly the same both my arms are exactly the same my hands are exactly the same. Not one cm off
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/human-body-ratios/
Lol I saw that I like it too 😂😂
I have a cousin named Margie so I’m good. Lots of people call me orogami. Somebody just called u speedwagon which i also like
He called you omargi LOL
Regardless, the human body still has many flaws. For example, molars are useless and they usually need to be removed. Why would God give us molars?
Also, if appendicitis is caused by an unhealhty diet, why would God make us want to eat food that is unhealthy?
So, I have to ask: is God responsible for all symmetrical forms that exist? Or just for the symmetry of our bodies?
Maybe God will show us someday, maybe that's part of spiritual growth
The appendix helps our immune system out. it is outdated science that it is useless
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/84937.php
we can not blame the body part because it fails because of our chemical filled diet
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071008102334.htm
"Long denigrated as vestigial or useless, the appendix now appears to have a reason to be - as a "safe house" for the beneficial bacteria living in the human gut. The gut is populated with different microbes that help the digestive system break down the foods we eat. In return, the gut provides nourishment and safety to the bacteria. Parker now believes that the immune system cells found in the appendix are there to protect, rather than harm, the good bacteria."
Our apendix is good, maybe neutral, but God made apendexis's for that pupose
I know but it is how precise it is that bothers me. i thought my hands would be off by an cm or something. But when i put my hands together it is exactly 50/50. I want to know all the stuff that we are to dumb to find out. There must be a ton of stuff that we are to dumb to find.
The human body also has many design flaws. For example, our appendix is useless but 7% of all adults get appendicitis. Why would God give us such a pointless and harmful organ?
I agree there are aspects of the human body that are designed to be symmetrical. But they are also designed to use the divine proportion, and even pi in some areas and respects. It probably gets even more amazing and complicated, but we are too dumb to figure it all out.
cheeto is sweet. i could kick her and she would love me.
Anyway are heads are placed exactly in the middle of our body's. Get a measuring tape and see. from my right shoulder to my neck is 7 inches. from my left shoulder to my neck is 7 inches.
Are you sure that Cheetos appreciates that?Lol
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