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Jeffrey Epstein is Still Alive

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Contender / Pro
Points: 4
Description
spin off off of crossed's debate
I waive first round.
Round 1
Published:
BOP is shared  I waive.
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Jefferey Epstein was under 24hour surveillance watch. But they supposedly lost the footage of him killing himself




info wars said there were going to stage a fake suicide of Jeffery Epstein hours before Jeffery Einstein committed suicide
just like how he said 911 was going to happen before it happened


And people are saying the photos of his death are fake

Round 2
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Jefferey Epstein was under 24hour surveillance watch. But they supposedly lost the footage of him killing himself
Ok, listen to his evidence, Epstein had so much grudges against people, SO EVERY CRIME FAMILY WOULD WANT HIM KILLED. What if he got murdered? The guy literally just says "my sources" does he state his sources, no!  The man from AMTV DOESN'T EVEN CONSIDER A MURDER, the guy's obviously so deluded he can't even see that his evidence points a different way from his CLAIMS.



info wars said there were going to stage a fake suicide of Jeffery Epstein hours before Jeffery Einstein committed suicide
just like how he said 911 was going to happen before it happened

Spelling Error


InfoWars is classified as A FAKE NEWS WEBSITE, get better sources.


And people are saying the photos of his death are fake

That's just plain misleading people. People are saying the NY post gurney photos are fake.



Published:
Point 1 I admit that he could have been murdered.But The person who is investigating Jeffs supposed body is the same person who investigated jfk and martin Luther king. and every other big coverup. why would the fake a autopsy if he died

But everything about it is funny. he was the biggest case in history and his jail cell did not have any cameras that recorded his death.



he was 66 years old when he supposedly died. which is an anagram for 666.


point 2

I don't want to go into info wars. Fake news the term was created by right wingers to describe cnn. left wingers started calling right wingers fake news but since right wingers created the term there the only one who can say who is fake news or not.


point 3

That's just plain misleading people. People are saying the NY post gurney photos are fake.

The first photo is of them entering the emergence room. the second photo follows it and there in a fire station like place with a hose compressor. In a completely different area




Round 3
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Point 1 I admit that he could have been murdered.But The person who is investigating Jeffs supposed body is the same person who investigated jfk and martin Luther king. and every other big coverup. why would the fake a autopsy if he died

Again, same video,  same guy with absolutely no sources but his brain.  He has no proof that they faked the autopsy. HOW IS JFK OR MLK a big cover up. See, deluded people like this who believe in the government is covering up everything, MAKE NO SENSE AT ALL. Why don't you believe he committed suicide before he had expose everything about his well known "friends". It makes much more sense.

But everything about it is funny. he was the biggest case in history and his jail cell did not have any cameras that recorded his death.



he was 66 years old when he supposedly died. which is an anagram for 666.
How is 66 even related to this, the government is trying to make him look like a devil? He wasn't the biggest case in history, there are so many other cases of sex trafficking celebrities. 

I don't want to go into info wars. Fake news the term was created by right wingers to describe cnn. left wingers started calling right wingers fake news but since right wingers created the term there the only one who can say who is fake news or not.
A lot of grammar mistakes here, took me an entire 5 minutes to figure out what you were saying. It is fake news, it's just a bunch of dumb conspiracy theorist that need to make everything a conspiracy theory instead of actually believing the facts.


The first photo is of them entering the emergence room. the second photo follows it and there in a fire station like place with a hose compressor. In a completely different area
Yes I know, they're the infamous gurney photos, from the NY post trying to grab stories.

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See, deluded people like this who believe in the government is covering up everything, MAKE NO SENSE AT ALL. Why don't you believe he committed suicide before he had expose everything about his well known "friends". It makes much more sense.
The government is the number one cause of death in the world.

the leading cause of death in the world is DEMOCIDE. Democide is death via government. It is estimated to have killed more then 750 million people. ... It is the number one cause of preventable ..

Democide (death by government) is the number one cause of unnatural death in the 20th and 21st century.


Conspiracy theorist have been labeled domestic terrorist by the FBI. Alex Jones have been banned off every platform. What do you make of his information.#liberals have been blinded by god.


HOW IS JFK OR MLK a big cover up. See, deluded people like this who believe in the government is covering up everything, MAKE NO SENSE AT ALL. Why don't you believe he committed suicide before he had expose everything about his well known "friends". It makes much more sense.
I think his pedo friends are more business partners.there is absolutely no proof that he would have any loyalty to him.


mlk was murder



Yes I know, they're the infamous gurney photos, from the NY post trying to grab stories.

Going against the mainstream agenda does not help you financially.

it's just a bunch of dumb conspiracy theorist that need to make everything a conspiracy theory instead of actually believing the facts.


This is one of his conspiracy that came true.like 911.
The reason why he has been kicked off every platform is because he tells he truth.


lot of grammar mistakes here, took me an entire 5 minutes to figure out what you were saying. It is fake news,
I have gotten better recently
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Bump. VOTE PLS
Instigator
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Removed for the same reason below.
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>Reported Vote: Press Ff4Respect// Mod action: [Removed]
>Points Awarded: 6 points to con for arguments, Sources and conduct
>Reason for Decision: Arguments:
PRO used circumstantial and coincidental evidence with no backing whatsoever
Sources:
PRO used biased sources (Infowars, really?)
S&G:
About equal
Conduct:
PRO should have waived
Reason for Mod Action>The voter doesn’t sufficiently justify or weigh arguments, compare sources, or conduct, or really justify any of the voting criteria, and offers a minimal justification on all points.
Please review the code of conduct; for specific detail of what is expected from voters.
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>Reported Vote: Gatorade // Mod action: Removed
>Points Awarded: 6 points to pro for arguments, grammar, and conduct
>Reason for Decision: See below
>Reason for Mod Action: The arguments are borderline, but the rest of the vote cannot stand. To award sources points, the voter must (1) explain how the debaters' sources impacted the debate, (2) directly assess the strength/utility of at least one source in particular cited in the debate, and (3) explain how and why one debater's use of sources overall was superior to the other's.
 Finally To award conduct points, the voter must (1) identify specific instances of misconduct, (2) explain how this misconduct was excessive, unfair, or in breach of the debate's rules, and (3) compare each debater's conduct.
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Round 1
CON waives, per description.
PRO brings up points about how Epstein was not watched, PRO also brings up a fake news source called "InfoWars". PRO mostly used conspiracy theories here to prove his point.
Round 2
CON brings up points attacking PRO's sources. These claims are correct, because InfoWars is not a reliable source. But CON does not have any sources backing up his claims of the 'YouTube' video being fake, and has no sources backing up his claims about the gurney photos being fake either.
PRO concedes that Epstein could have been murdered. PRO also makes several grammar mistakes, which makes it really hard to read. PRO states that the same guy investigated MLK and JFK, but that is simply not true. PRO also states that "he doesn't want to bring up fake news" which is just a simple way of stating "I'm to lazy to refute your claims".
ROUND 3
CON makes grammar mistakes in this round too, which makes it sort of hard to read, but nowhere close to the amount of PRO. CON rebuts PRO's points.
PRO should not have answered this round as BOP per CON's first argument rules.
ARGUMENT
CON convinced me.
SOURCES
Both had terrible sources.
GRAMMAR
PRO had the grammar of a five year old.
CONDUCT
PRO should've forfeited last round.
#22
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--> @Gatorade
you screwed up when voting.you gave me points when in your reasoning you wanted to give points to con
Contender
#21
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--> @Club
i need a vacation
Contender
#20
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--> @crossed
https://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_number_1_cause_of_death_to_animals_in_the_world
Death to animals? really?
Instigator
#19
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this debate is unbearable to sit through.
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Yea
Instigator
#17
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Was i suppose to waive the last round. If yes i would happily concede the debate
Contender
#16
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made a mistake
Instigator
#15
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If the BoP is shared then why did you waive?
#14
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--> @DapperMack
He first created this debate against speedrace, and I wanted to do the same debate, so...
Instigator
#13
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This is one-sided af. Of course he's dead.
#12
#1
Criterion Con Tie Pro Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
“I admit that he could have been murdered." Concession. Walked back or not, still the most logical part of pro’s argument. Things like “666” do not indicate someone is alive.
Cons arguments were mainly that pros were terrible, challenging the sources as fake news, etc. his case would have been better to open with any source pointing to the death certificate, but the talk of crime families wanting to kill him did a decent job getting pro to concede.
As a reminder, pro had BoP to at least suggest the public figure is still alive, which requires something to suggest that, not just complaints that we don’t have a video of him dying.