God created Dna
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"Human DNA is like a computer program but far, far more advanced than any software ever created." Bill Gates.
our actions effect our DNA
"Religious people have genes that are all rainbows sparkles and sunny. But that same gene in atheist is all dead has rain clouds going all over it and is just depressing looking. but sure that does not prove god exists. it is in Paul's post https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/455/this-should-not-be-in-the-science-forum Paul post. in the video he post's about them trying curing religious with vaccines"
- There is no Pentagon room #BC232. All pentagon locations use and XXYY format where XX=(Level Letter, Bldg. Letter) and YY=(Room 0-99) There are no 3 digit room locations in the Pentagon. [5]
- The picture itself is from a 2010 study of temporal lesions in a patient with a history of methamphetamine abuse, refuting the video timestamp. [6]
- The two brain pictures are obviously of the same brain so we are not comparing different brains.
- No rainbows sparkles or rain clouds are indicated in either picture.
Bill Gate said"Human DNA is like a computer program but far, far more advanced than any software ever created." Bill Gates.We always here how things found in nature are ten billion times more advance then invention done by are smartest humans. But we are still to stupid to realize that the reason why things found in nature are more advance then inventions done by are smartest people is because the one creating it is a billion times smarter then our smartest people.aka god
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our actions effect our DNAso if a kid decides to not obey his parents and steal from a cookie jar. That effects his genes and That action is going to be passed down to his children.I am an alcoholic My DNA changes and my kid is most likely going to be an alcoholic.If i have sex with a bunch of females. MY DNA will change and my children would get that DNA and would repeat that.If i do a bad thing like watch porn and get addicted to it. my genes will change where my children would most likely be addicted to porn 3 to 4 generations.
Sins of the father are the sins of the son.This is exactly how many generations the bible said the the sins of the father would effect there kids.Bible says that sin will be past down 3 to 4 generationsScientist say genes we get by doing sin will be past down 3 to 4 generation.3 to 4 generation exact same number
"The good news is that even if epigenetic modifications are passed onto your offspring, they are reversible. In other words, it is possible to break the curse."
There DNA repair foods. Why would plant's have properties that repair dna. Firstly the creator would have to have knowledge on what DNA is in order to create something that repair dna. and how does it have knowledge on how to repair it.The kiwi fruit industry wanted to know what medicinal purposes there plant had. so they funded a bunch of experiments. They found that when you consume a kiwi you repair 5 genes.By video 2 They went forward with there experiments. But with other fruits and they found that the group that ate 4 different kinds of berries with kiwi repaired 25 genes. They ate bilberry raspberry blackberry kiwi and strawberry and repaired 25 genes. 5 genes per fruit.precise number 5
turmeric was given to smokers and there DNA damage rate was returned back to a normal person.
"According to a 2017 review of over 120 studies, curcumin [turmeric] has not been successful in any clinical trial, leading the authors to conclude that "curcumin is an unstable, reactive, non-bioavailable compound and, therefore, a highly improbable lead". The US government has supported US$150 million in research into curcumin through the National Center for Complementary and Integrative Health, and no support has been found for curcumin as a medical treatment." [8]
No rainbows sparkles or rain clouds are indicated in either picture.
CON sources an evangelical church specializing in defining proper sexual behavior. The source does assert that genetic modifications are evidence of curses from God. We know that genetic mutations have the capacity to endure for far longer than a few generations. What science supports the idea that genetic changes only last 3 or 4 generations?
Individual cells have an inherent capacity to repair their own DNA. CON finds no evidence that Kiwi (or any fruit) directly impacts these processes.
RO never connects evidence to thesis. So even if PRO had proved that all religious folks have sparkly rainbows in their brains, PRO never explained why this evidence of creation by the asserted Abrahamic God (Buddha was religious, for example, so Buddha would have had the alleged rainbow brain. But wouldn't Buddha's rainbow brain serve as evidence disproving an Abrahamic God as supreme? In any case, all four of PRO's arguments have been shown to be false, based on sloppy or outdated information or full out lies propagated to bilk money from the gullible. PRO's entire case collapses into a foundation of pure bunk.
"that was a metaphor"
"Who said this happened at the pentagon?"
"Con brings up that it was 18 years ago (*) when bill said that OK."
"Harvard cracked into DNA storage and discovered one gram of DNA holds 700 terabytes worth a data."
" an html-coded draft of a book that included 53,426 words, 11 JPG images and 1 JavaScript program into a 5.27 megabit bitstream"
"Saying an explosion brought a human is like saying an explosion brought a airplane. People seem to not get the reality of this statement of fact."
"Retired physician Harriet A. Hall, who is known as a skeptic in the medical community, has written that, while it is well-accepted that it is more healthy to eat a plant-based diet than a typical Western diet, Greger often overstates the known benefits of such a diet as well as the harm caused by eating animal products (for example, in a talk, he claimed that a single meal rich in animal products can "cripple" one's arteries), and he sometimes does not discuss evidence that contradicts his strong claims." [5]
"In vitro, curcumin exhibits numerous interference properties which may lead to misinterpretation of results. Although curcumin has been assessed in numerous laboratory and clinical studies, it has no medical uses established by well-designed clinical research." [6]
"Bharat Aggarwal was a cancer researcher at the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center, who as of April 2018 had 19 papers retracted for research fraud. Aggarwal's research had focused on potential anti-cancer properties of herbs and spices, particularly curcumin, and according to a March 2016 article in the Houston Chronicle, "attracted national media interest and laid the groundwork for ongoing clinical trials". Aggarwal co-founded a company in 2004 called Curry Pharmaceuticals, based in Research Triangle Park, North Carolina, which was seeking to develop drugs based on synthetic analogs of curcumin." [6]
"is activated when you are religious. God has not seem to specifically create it for Christianity. But it is the act of being religious itself that activate this gene."
"The God Gene might have been a fascinating, enlightening book if Hamer hadwritten it 10 years from now- after his link between VMAT2 and self-transcendence had been confirmed by others and after he had seriously tested its importance to our species. Instead the book we have today would be better titled:"A Gene That Accounts for Less Than One Per-cent of the Variance Found in Scores on Psychological Questionnaires Designed to Measure a Factor Called Self-Transcendence, Which Can Signify Everything from Belonging to the Green Party to Believing in ESP, According to One Unpublished, Unreplicated Study."
PRO concedes the point:
"Con brings up that it was 18 years ago (*) when bill said that OK."
Either way, PRO has still failed to offer evidence that sin is recorded in DNA & failed to show how God deactivates curses after 3 or 4 generations.
BREAKING THE CURSE
The good news is that even if epigenetic modifications are passed onto your offspring, they are reversible. In other words, it is possible to break the curse. “You can go either way. we can pass along both positive things in our life and or negative, depending on the choices we make in life”, said Jennings.
"In vitro, curcumin exhibits numerous interference properties which may lead to misinterpretation of results. Although curcumin has been assessed in numerous laboratory and clinical studies, it has no medical uses established by well-designed clinical research." [6]
The mainstream media appears to be the ally of drug companies. Exaggerated, embellished, and possibly fabricated headlines regularly make bad guys out of natural remedies that evidence suggests protect and heal us.
For instance, a Forbes headline read: “Everybody Needs To Stop With This Turmeric Molecule.” Another publication stated: “Forget What You’ve Heard: Turmeric Seems To Have Zero Medicinal Properties.” The job of these attention-grabbing titles is to warn scientists and consumers that curcumin, and likely turmeric itself, is a “waste of money and time.”
Where is all this coming from? The basis for this attack stems from a paper published in the Journal of Medicinal Chemistry in January. The perspective review stated that no double-blind, placebo-controlled, human trials (randomized control trials; RCTs) of curcumin have been successful. As a result, news outlets reported that curcumin doesn’t do anything for your health at all.
That’s an over-simplistic conclusion to come to. You see, the media and some scientists will ignore anything that isn’t a RCT. In other words, the first-hand experiences of success using turmeric are deemed as “anecdotal claims.” And thought of as completely worthless. Also discarded are the thousands of animal (in vivo) and cell (in vitro) studies that illustrate the therapeutic properties of turmeric and curcumin.
PRO countered that CON should watch the last 30 seconds of the video provided as evidence. Of course, CON always reviews all evidence before replying.
"The God Gene might have been a fascinating, enlightening book if Hamer hadwritten it 10 years from now- after his link between VMAT2 and self-transcendence had been confirmed by others and after he had seriously tested its importance to our species. Instead the book we have today would be better titled:"A Gene That Accounts for Less Than One Per-cent of the Variance Found in Scores on Psychological Questionnaires Designed to Measure a Factor Called Self-Transcendence, Which Can Signify Everything from Belonging to the Green Party to Believing in ESP, According to One Unpublished, Unreplicated Study."
PRO dropped the DNA argument but offers a study that found that curcumin applied in controversial doses inhibited cancer cell growth in mice. So PRO's first claim was that turmeric repaired damaged human cells and when that was refuted PRO now claims that turmeric kills mouse cells. PRO's arguments contradict one another while nevertheless failing to show any medicinal effect in humans. Further, PRO fails to show how either proposed property of turmeric might serve as evidence that God created DNA.
"Saying an explosion brought a human is like saying an explosion brought a airplane. People seem to not get the reality of this statement of fact."
PRO may count me is with the rest of "people" here- PRO's intent is entirely obscure.
- PRO denied that the fake video was claiming to be shot in the Pentagon.
- PRO claims the fake video was shot in a secret room in the Pentagon, consistent with the Govt.'s plan to cure religion. Except for the obviously overdubbed, doctored video, PRO offers no evidence for secret rooms in the Pentagon or Govt. programs to eradicate religion.
- PRO concedes CON's R1 argument, that the two brains shown side by side in the fake video are clearly of one brain. At 9:00 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd6u5Los-VM&feature=youtu.be&t=468 the fake video claims to show different VMAT2 expressions via FMRI in two individuals, one religious, one not. Con concedes here that his evidence is faked.
The video in the original source literally states that you could end the curses.Stop B#### me.
"Doctors Health Press is a website promoting alternative medicine and Big Pharma conspiracy theories. Its many articles are usually about "a new study" showing some "natural" treatment to be effective, or about some artificial chemical being harmful. They claim their newsletter has 200,000 subscribers. They also sell health books and subscriptions to various paper newsletters of theirs.""Some of the claims they make include:
- Big Pharma, the medical establishment, and the powers that be are trying to stop you from finding about the miracle that is homeopathy — it's a good thing Doctors Health Press is here to speak out against the conspiracy! Of course, the conspirators aren't doing a particularly good job at hiding homeopathy, since it's frequently in the news, people talk about it all the time, and practicing homeopathists can be found pretty much everywhere (unfortunately), none of which is attributable to the actions of Doctors Health Press.
- You, too, can live to be 122 like Jeanne Calment by taking resveratrol, a natural compound found in red grape skin! But wait, that's not all: Doctors Health Press has an even better compound called pterostilbene, which they will graciously sell bottles of to you with loads of free gifts.
I never said turmeric kills the good cells in mice??
1. Some conspiracy theorist...
Pro offers it, and con disproves the validity of it on several grounds.
2. Bill Gates said...
Con proves that Bill Gates has since updated his beliefs, and that software is more advanced than us as of 2001; refuting the idea that something more advanced is required to make something less advanced (like tool progression, we did not start at supercomputers and work our way down to the hammer).
3. Our DNA mutates every time we sin
Con refutes the crazy source for this, and pro offers no reason we should believe it in light of that.
3 (bonus) DVD salesman is greater than God
Con twists pro's words into this, and pro stands by it... Nicely done pro.
4. spam.
5. spam.
I've reviewed the main points, and am not reviewing more spam which doesn't in any way connect to the resolution.
Sources:
Con did extensive research to challenge pro's sources, and even used pro's own Harvard source to prove that he was blatantly misrepresenting the data while trying to move the goalpost away from complexity, and failing even by that standard.