Instigator / Con
1
1479
rating
2
debates
0.0%
won
Topic
#1321

The Second Amendment should be abolished

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Winner
1
12

After 12 votes and with 11 points ahead, the winner is...

TheRealNihilist
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
2
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
1,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Winner selection
Voting system
Open
Contender / Pro
12
1650
rating
44
debates
77.27%
won
Description

No information

Criterion
Con
Tie
Pro
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

FF

Criterion
Con
Tie
Pro
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

forfeit

Criterion
Con
Tie
Pro
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

Forfeited

Criterion
Con
Tie
Pro
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

FF

Criterion
Con
Tie
Pro
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

Forfeiture

Criterion
Con
Tie
Pro
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

Concession.

Criterion
Con
Tie
Pro
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

Full forfeit

Criterion
Con
Tie
Pro
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

FF, pro's case wholly dropped.

Criterion
Con
Tie
Pro
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

Con opens by implying that law abiding citizens don't shoot people, and their argument is that criminals (many of whom do shoot people) will be less scared of law abiding citizens if the 2nd amendment is abolished. Additionally, leisurely activities like trap shooting and those participated in the boy scouts might be less enjoyable, or treated disproportionately to other sports.

Pro brought Cons first point into question pointing out that the role of government probably shouldn't be the promotion of fear, which seems reasonable. Cons second point is self defeating as it is common knowledge the US constitution does not mention any sports.

Pro's case suggests the government should ban guns, which requires abolishing the 2nd amendment. They justify the imposition, implying that it will lead to immortality and there will be no more murder, suicide etc... As well, "I think the government should be put in place to maintain the safety of their citizens not give them things that can only harm their well-being or cause unnecessary fear among others" So given the context it appears pro contends the guns with no recreational value or practical utility should be prohibited by the government. Being in reference to the Constitution of the USA, I'm going to assume that the people in that jurisdiction would generally be aware that some guns are already put out of production by law, and the 2nd amendment does not mandate that the government give people arms, so Pro's motivation for repeal is questionable.

Con forfeits, and Pro wins by superior conduct.

Criterion
Con
Tie
Pro
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

Full forfeit.

Criterion
Con
Tie
Pro
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

Con states his case, Pro states his case, and rebuts what Con said. Con can't defend his points and forfeits which is poor conduct. Pro doesn't forfeit R2, thus keeping his conduct mark intact.

Criterion
Con
Tie
Pro
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

Con FF half of the debate, that's poor conduct