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The odds of a German victory in WW2 were unfavourable in December of 1942

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Trent0405
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You must hold the stance that Germanies odds were favourable.

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Basic history knowledge. Hitler is doomed after he failed to make the Soviet Union capitulate and after he declared war on US. There is nothing Hitler could have done to prevent his eventual defeat. It is just like the situation with Poland, there is no way they could win

if the germans had used their wonder weapons a bit earlier wed all speak german or be hiding in an attic

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@oromagi

lol it was accepted with 4 hours remaining, so close.

intercourse, at last

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@billbatard

1,580% is the actual oil production difference, this was a mathematical error on my part, I apologise.

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@Exile

very sad you missed out, wouldn't mind debating this in the future with you.

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@Trent0405

Damn I wish I saw this sooner, cuz I would have totally taken you up on this debate. Sorry bro.

anybody?

Bump for competitors

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@Trent0405

Remember, ISIS and the rebels used to work together before falling out

https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2014/06/12/two-arab-countries-fall-apart

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@Trent0405

Its more stable

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@Dr.Franklin

You have changed my mind, wasn't aware of how atrocious the rebels were as well. Both are horrible though, but I'd rather Asaad stay in power than.

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@Trent0405

ALOHA SNAKCBARS on the rebel sides

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg5UEz_Ao0g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3jbNepN6kM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiyyWiO-IKY

Watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGEc-CMsrQs

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@Trent0405

The "rebels" consists of major terrorist groups including Al-queda in Syria

"The Nusra Front, also known as Jabhat al-Nusra, is an Al Qaeda-affiliated terrorist group, comprising approximately 6,000 foreign and domestic fighters. The Nusra Front has reportedly been receiving significant funding, arms, and training from Al-Qaeda and the Al Qaeda-affiliated group, Islamic State of Iraq. Some of Nusra’s fighters are foreign jihadists, many of whom are veterans of the Iraqi insurgency; it is unclear, however, what percentage of the Nusra Front’s supporters are foreign fighters as opposed to Syrian nationals. The Nusra Front is a well-armed group that has claimed responsibility for multiple suicide bombings and asymmetric attacks against Assad-regime targets. The Nusra Front is also considered to be a fiercely sectarian Sunni group in violent opposition to Syria’s Alawite community—an ethnoreligious group of Shiite Muslims who comprise 12 percent of the Syrian population and the majority of the Assad regime."

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/security/reports/2013/05/14/63221/the-structure-and-organization-of-the-syrian-opposition/

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@Dr.Franklin

oh, why would Assad be better for Syria? I'm not quite sure what the rebels might do if they get control, but Assad has done some horrible things.

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@Trent0405

Well I disagree with everything you said, go Assad!

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@Dr.Franklin

I hope the rebels oust Bashar, Russia's support of his leadership is horrifying, Bashar has used chemical attacks on his people, executed/tortured 11,000 people, and murdered journalists that disagree with him. Russia, at least morally should stop supporting Assad.

https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-09-24/8-reminders-how-horrible-syrian-president-bashar-al-assad-has-been-his-people

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@Trent0405

What's your stance on Syria and Russia

I already debated this

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@logicae

Sadly I'd agree with you, but I appreciate your interest in the topic.

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@Trent0405

I completely agree. Taxes, guns, and abortion are all super important topics to me. But it is so boring to repeat the same sources and points over and over again. Arguing about tax codes is dry af.

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@Trent0405

Indeed. I would be interested in this debate if the title had 1941 Germany (before the invasion of Russia). Would you debate that?

To Truth!
-logicae

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@TheAtheist

I'm glad you find the debate topic interesting, but yeah god and abortion debates are everywhere, largely because it's just more important than debates like this. Weather Its okay to kill a human life, and the cause of our very existence are much more important than this debate. However, It's largely just the same points, and it's not fun nor interesting (in my opinion). I've got complete respect for anybody who's brave enough to argue the possible 2 most important topics currently, but boy does it get old.

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@Trent0405

Most debates on this website are about God and abortion, actually. It's strange that we argue the same things over and over instead of focusing on interesting topics such as this one.

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@oromagi

Thank you, to be honest debates about God and abortion are incredibly boring to me, especially when it takes a whole afternoon to read. So, I do more niche debates to remedy this.

I like this topic a lot. let’s have more like this