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God created Morality

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After 1 vote and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

TheRealNihilist
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Gods moral system effect's us biologically.

Giving to the poor can help with an assortment of different diseases like Hiv/aids and other chronic diseases and can even add years to one's life. This is because Gods moral system effects us biologically.

This disproves Evolution because Morals are not something taught to us by our parents.

This is like if i murdered children and my eyes turned red or yellow to show that i am evil.

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@crossed

""the pain of discovering that for a long time many of us have ignorantly been taking part in celebrating a pagan holiday that is so very closely (almost inseparably) related to Satanism, blood-drinking, and human sacrificing."
https://malawi24.com/2016/12/20/opinion-christmas-not-birth-christ-just-satanic-festivity/
Why would Christians want to make a bootlegged version of a holiday about blood drinking and human sacrifice.No the holiday was repackaged for the christian people"

Because we don't drink blood or sacrifice humans. It is sheer nonsense to say that we are celebrating that when we aren't doing it. The whole reason that Christians made a "bootlegged version" of Saturnalia is so people would stop celebrating Saturnalia. Here is a quote from the article you cited:
Through a little on-going research that has taken me through various books written by prominent people (who know what’s going on in the New World Order Agenda), many suppressed discoveries and revelations that were never allowed to see full publicity, and video products that have for a long time been concealed (by the people moving the Agenda), I have discovered many things that have actually enlightened me and several other researchers on how foolish we people have been for ages, simply because we don’t care.

"Through a little on-going research that has taken me through various books written by prominent people (who know what’s going on in the New World Order Agenda), many suppressed discoveries and revelations that were never allowed to see full publicity, and video products that have for a long time been concealed (by the people moving the Agenda), I have discovered many things that have actually enlightened me and several other researchers on how foolish we people have been for ages, simply because we don’t care."

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@SirAnonymous

"the pain of discovering that for a long time many of us have ignorantly been taking part in celebrating a pagan holiday that is so very closely (almost inseparably) related to Satanism, blood-drinking, and human sacrificing."
https://malawi24.com/2016/12/20/opinion-christmas-not-birth-christ-just-satanic-festivity/

Why would Christians want to make a bootlegged version of a holiday about blood drinking and human sacrifice.No the holiday was repackaged for the christian people.

What about Halloween or Easter. There pagan.There just the same thing with another name.

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@crossed

Actually, Christmas was invented to replace pagan evil by getting people to celebrate the birth of Christ rather than the pagan festival Saturnalia, so its origins are the exact opposite of pagan evil. The debate you link to is devoid of evidence and consists solely of baseless assertions.

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@SirAnonymous

No Christmas has it roots in pagan Evils
https://www.debateart.com/debates/1443/believing-in-jesus-is-like-believing-in-santa

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@crossed

"Real anology
The company building is colored blue.The employee uniform was colored blue.Thus the blue uniform was created blue to match the blue building
Weasle's have white fur during the winter when there is white snow. The weasel was colored white to match the white snow.
False analogy
My mom has a blue shoe. SO was my mom shoe colored blue to match the blue company building.
My paper is colored white. Was it colored white to match the white weasel"
Extremely ridiculous and false analogy:
"Santa is just satan rearranged.
both are depicted with red
Santa last name is claws."
I don't think we should teach children that Santa is real even though he isn't, but comparing him to the devil is just ridiculous. Santa originally came from the story of St. Nicholas throwing bags of gold down a chimney. It has nothing to do with Satan.

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@Ramshutu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4sP1E1Jd_Y

https://youtu.be/xQgOjHsMEeE

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@Ramshutu

Yes you can

If i have a red colored microwave and a red colored fridge.It is just pure common sense to conclude that i got the red colored microwave to match the red colored fridge.

If you use a false analogy on me. there are red rocks thus i got a red fridge to match red rocks. It does not work because they are not connected.

Rabbits are white during the winter. Thus it is common sense to conclude the rabbit was colored white to match the white snow.

Science is real good at telling us how stuff work.It is terrible at telling us how something came to be.Telling me how DNA works does not disprove god made it. It only supports that god made it because it is so advance.

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@crossed

No you really, really can’t, and it’s a major failure of critical thinking on your part to even begin to presume you can.

You’re literally saying that you can conclude that the deeply ingrained biological processes in a wild animal that drives its pigmentation must be manually specified by an intelligent designed - on the basis that humans are able to make colours match.

There are properties and circumstances that allow us to determine whether agency was responsible for one of those things; you haven’t bothered to compare any of those properties and circumstances ; you just arbitrarily determine that if the colour of a thing matches something else - it requires intelligence because other times a colour of a thing matches something else - it requires intelligence.

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@Ramshutu

Yes you can.

IF my dog has a blue collar and he has a blue dog house. The collar was colored blue to match the blue doghouse.

Rabbits are brown during the summer.White during the winter. White rabbits are colored white to match the white snow.

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@crossed

Both are false analogies.

You can’t infer that cause of two events are the same just because the two events share similarities.

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@SirAnonymous

Welcome to the site.Your new right? The debate is about how gods morals effect us biologically.Giving to other's can help with chronic diseases.Being bad can cause god to harden your heart etc.

I don't get why people use false analogy on real one.

Real anology

The company building is colored blue.The employee uniform was colored blue.Thus the blue uniform was created blue to match the blue building

Weasle's have white fur during the winter when there is white snow. The weasel was colored white to match the white snow.

False analogy

My mom has a blue shoe. SO was my mom shoe colored blue to match the blue company building.

My paper is colored white. Was it colored white to match the white weasel

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@crossed

"This deals with the spaghetti monster ideology to.
similarly how people believe that believe in jesus us like believing in santa.
Santa is just satan rearranged.
both are depicted with red
Santa last name is claws."
It drives me crazy when people use such coincidental reasoning as though it proves anything. Let me show you how ridiculous this is.
Santa is just T NASA, or THE NASA, rearranged.
Santa is depicted in red and white, and the American flag is also red and white.
Therefore, Santa represents the American space agency NASA.

Santa rearranged is tan as, which could be the start of a simile.
Santa's last name is clause.
Therefore, Santa represents grammatical clauses that are similes.

Clinton rearranged is lint con.
Lint comes from laundry.
Con refers to scams.
Therefore, all Clintons are money launderers.

This debate seems somewhat pointless to me. If God exists, then He almost certainly created morality. If He doesn't exist, then He didn't create it. Shouldn't the real question be whether or not He exists?

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@billbatard

Because demons muddied the water's.Demons started calling themselfs Gods for ego reasons. it is like if my boss at worked forced me to refer to him as master and they created all these religions so people would not know which one is right.

Here is all the religions that the quote on quote angle Gabriel made
https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion/comments/2j76pc/the_angel_gabriel_sure_does_seem_to_start_a_lot/

"The Angel Gabriel sure does seem to start a lot of Religions"

The guy goes on and say's there are so many religions. How do we know which one is right. But that was the demons plan he created all these religions so people would think they must be all false because there are so many. there all So stupid.

Bible says demons masquerade as being of light if i recall.It also says if i recall to test every spirit to say if they say the truth.

This deals with the spaghetti monster ideology to.

similarly how people believe that believe in jesus us like believing in santa.

Santa is just satan rearranged.

both are depicted with red

Santa last name is claws.

The greatest lie the devil ever told was convincing the world he never existed.

All these ideology like the believing in Jesus is like believing in Santa or spaghetti monster and so many religions which one is right. All have evidence that these ideology were created by demons.

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@crossed

hm? answer me that then smarty pants

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@crossed

Every culture in the world came up with the same idea/ then why pray tell are there so many different religions and so many different crimes. something illegal in mecca may bot be in amsterdam, you can drink alcohol cosort with prostitutes, chose a relgion and leave it, is this the same the world over? is it/ no it is not, one would think that a competant god could get his message out clearly so as to not cause such confusion

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@billbatard

If morals are just a concept made up by man. Why do they effect us biologically. If god is man made why did every culture in the world come up with the same idea.

morality and god are both man made

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@TheRealNihilist

????

werd

open challenge

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@zedvictor4

I would love my own category.

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@crossed

There really should be a debating category labelled gobbledygook.

Bump