Instigator / Pro
42
1294
rating
75
debates
18.0%
won
Topic
#1413

Mass shooters do not target gun free zones

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
18
9
Better sources
12
10
Better legibility
6
6
Better conduct
6
0

After 6 votes and with 17 points ahead, the winner is...

billbatard
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
One day
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
25
1472
rating
2
debates
0.0%
won
Description

To the contrary, in many of the cases there was clearly another motive for the choice of location. For example, 20 were workplace shootings, most of which involved perpetrators who felt wronged by employers and colleagues. Last September, when a troubled man working at a sign manufacturer in Minneapolis was told he would be let go, he pulled out a 9mm Glock and killed six people and injured another before putting a bullet in his own head. Similar tragedies unfolded at a beer distributor in Connecticut in 2010 and at a plastics factory in Kentucky in 2008.

Or consider the 12 school shootings we documented, in which all but one of the killers had personal ties to the school they struck. FBI investigators learned from one witness, for example, that the mass shooter in Newtown had long been fixated on Sandy Hook Elementary School, which he’d once attended.To the contrary, in many of the cases there was clearly another motive for the choice of location. For example, 20 were workplace shootings, most of which involved perpetrators who felt wronged by employers and colleagues. Last September, when a troubled man working at a sign manufacturer in Minneapolis was told he would be let go, he pulled out a 9mm Glock and killed six people and injured another before putting a bullet in his own head. Similar tragedies unfolded at a beer distributor in Connecticut in 2010 and at a plastics factory in Kentucky in 2008.

Or consider the 12 school shootings we documented, in which all but one of the killers had personal ties to the school they struck. FBI investigators learned from one witness, for example, that the mass shooter in Newtown had long been fixated on Sandy Hook Elementary School, which he’d once attended.https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/no-mass-shooters-do-not-target-gun-free-zones/

Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments ✗ ✔ ✗ 3 points
Better sources ✗ ✔ ✗ 2 points
Better spelling and grammar ✗ ✔ ✗ 1 point
Better conduct ✔ ✗ ✗ 1 point
Reason:weak efforts on both sides. Conduct to PRO for only forfeiting the first round

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@billbatard

I guess you missed me saying I admit I started at a poor time. I am not whining, I just think it's funny that you're calling it an excuse that I decided to take my education more seriously than some online debate. Which is more important: An online debate that will virtually have no purpose in the long run OR training to get my pilots license so I can have a solid career when I graduate from college. I'll let you decide. Have a good day, chief

life is filed with coices i did not choice when m power went out for three days you choose to forfiet this debate, stop whining

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@Barney

I admit I started at a poor time. It's just funny how Bilbatard is calling it an excuse to care more about learning how to fly a plane then some online debate

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@DroneYoinker

Bettering yourself should always take priority over a hobby like this.

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@billbatard

I'm more worried about passing my Stage 1: Pre-Solo Flight Exam than some debate that will ultimately do nothing in the long run for me nor you.

Did I start the debate at a poor time? Yeah probably. Is it an "excuse" to care more about my education than some online debate? No. It's reasonable.

In Singapore they beat you for littering.

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@DroneYoinker

do not make excuses, thats wont work later on in life learn now to accept respsibility or people wont take your seriously, and i know from experience so do as i say not as i du du du

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@billbatard

Yeah chief sorry I forfeited but a bunch of stuff started happening in school so that kinda took priority. I'll respond to the next round but honestly my mind is elsewhere right now

no one targets a site because it is a gun free zone they are targeted for personal reasons , and many mass shooting begin in private homes and move out to schools and churches

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@billbatard

Most shootings may occur in more private environments, but this debate is about "mass shootings".

i do not plagerize i always site m y sources that is slander! re trakt or i will suee

people do not target gun free x zones most shootings occur in private homes

How come more people hate Trump than hate elementary school students but elementary school students are targeted more? Could it be that one is a soft target because of liberals. Also I would reccomend not plagiarizing like you did. Voters typically frown upon it

Are you seriously going to start a brand new gun debate when you haven't even finished this gun debate with me yet?? https://web.archive.org/web/20190918011624/https://www.debateart.com/debates/1373/gun-control