Instigator / Pro
14
1294
rating
75
debates
18.0%
won
Topic
#1462

Now is the time to impeach trump

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
6
0
Better sources
4
4
Better legibility
2
2
Better conduct
2
0

After 2 votes and with 8 points ahead, the winner is...

billbatard
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
One day
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
6
1471
rating
2
debates
0.0%
won
Description

Even fox news is admitting he broke the law so time to impeach trump now https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/09/madness-at-fox-news-as-trump-faces-impeachment-lachlan-murdoch

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Conduct to pro due to One more forfeit by con

Arguments: the win here was in R1 then the penultimate round, pro argues that trump committed impeachable crimes, and thus should be investigated and impeached. This basically establishes a minimal burden of proof.

Con counters by arguing that people don’t support impeachment. Pro sufficiently pointed out that the support is growing and would be low at the start of an enquirey and grow. In reality I don’t see the validity of cons contention that popular support should be a determining factor on whether a president should be accused of high crimes and misdemeanours. As a result, arguments go to pro.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

The con case centers around how everyone in the US loves Trump, and how wrong it is for any of them to call him a Nazi... Kind of self defeating.
The pro case only gained any momentum later, with Trump having apparently confessed to impeachable crimes (dismissing the rest of that round because it looks copy/pasted) which con chooses to drop.

Conduct for greater forfeiture.