Instigator / Pro
15
1570
rating
311
debates
65.92%
won
Topic

Tech N9ne has the most evolved, near-perfect capability to make his raps flow of all rappers there have ever been AND EVER will be. He is insurmountable as a flow machine.

Status
Finished

All stages have been completed. The voting points distribution and the result are presented below.

Arguments points
3
9
Sources points
6
2
Spelling and grammar points
3
3
Conduct points
3
0

With 3 votes and 1 point ahead, the winner is ...

RationalMadman
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Publication date
Last update date
Category
Music
Time for argument
Three days
Voting system
Open voting
Voting period
Two months
Point system
Four points
Rating mode
Rated
Characters per argument
30,000
Contender / Con
14
1266
rating
119
debates
15.97%
won
Description
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Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better spelling and grammar
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Both Pro and Con agree that Tech N9ne is a very good rapper. The disagreement though, is in the second part of the resolution: That he is the best that ever will be. Con states that it is impossible to know since one cannot look into the future. Pro does not bother to respond to this. As such, I give arguments to Con.

Pro was the only one to include a source, so he gets points for that one.

Pro also wins conduct points. Con called Pro a "sneaky little b*****d".

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Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better spelling and grammar
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Conduct; Pro.
Con called Pro a "sneaky little bastard" and then forfeited several rounds, so conduct goes to Pro.

Citations; Pro.
Pro both linked to YouTude videos and quoted lyrics, which he utilized in an effective manner to support his arguments concerning the quality of the music. Con provided no sources.

Arguments; Con.
Pro's thesis was highly complex and nigh-impossible to prove, based most of all on the "EVER will be" part of his claim. The only way to conclusively prove this would be to either have the ability to see the future or somehow provide conclusive evidence that the subject of the debate has a level of skill which is impossible for any other artist to ever achieve. This makes his claim highly questionable right off the bat.

Pro's argument centered around highlighting the music talents of the subject. He made these arguments well and supported them with ample citations.

However, Con countered by keeping his points simple, brief and to the point. Con accurately points out that the burden of proof in this situation requires either foreknowledge of the future or the ability to prove that other artists cannot achieve the same level of skill as the subject. Con points out that Pro cannot know "what the best possible flow is" during round 2, and although Pro goes on to praise the subject of the debate, he never actually proves that he can know beyond any shadow of doubt that the subject's level of skill is unobtainable by any other artist. As such, Con's argument is valid and confirms that Pro was unable to fully prove his original thesis.

Added:
Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better spelling and grammar
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Conduct to pro for the forfeits.