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It should be socially-acceptable for White People to say the N-word while rapping along to a black rapper's rap with the N-word in it.

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RationalMadman
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Round 1
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If Con argues that saying the N-word is too cruel to black people, Con concedes that black rappers should be banned from saying it and needs to justify wiping all raps off of the face of the Earth that have it in it in order to enforce that.

If Con argues that the word is too brutal and unacceptable because of enslavement and connotations behind it, note that no single black in a society with white people today is enslaved legally and the best efforts are put in by developed-nation-governments to end even the most indirect kinds of slavery with illegal immigrants where you have their passport etc (even legal ones where this happens). No one today is enslaved, not a single damn great-great grandson of someone who was remotely an actual worker-for-no-money has had to live a single day as a slave. They may have had an unfair backfoot in life and that's an issue to fix with left-wing policies and general education and availability of apprenticeships but is most certainly not going to be remotely fixed nor felt sorry for by avoiding the use of a word that connotes something that doesn't happen anymore. If you were an actual slave and slavery had just ended, sure yes you have the right to some kind of "bitch don't you DARE say that word to me!" swagger but please I find it quite pathetic when the blacks of today (of course not all of them, many actually support me on this topic) say "OMG the white-male-privilege OMG how DARE they even have the gall to say it, it's just a no-no boo-hoo great-great-great grandma was hurt so hard she bruised through!"

Like really, if you say that the blacks who say the word are bad rappers I actually agree by and large even though some great rappers use it such as Tech N9ne, Hopsin and Nicki Minaj when she isn't making a slut-fest song. Overall, the rappers who keep using that word are the Lil Waynes and the 21 savages of the rap game, they don't know how to rap so they put a word that can rhyme with itself and has so many grammatical capabilities to be used because the word itself means 4 different things nowadays when blacks use it (friend, coward/bitch, asshole or stranger).

If you actually want people to mix and genuinely be equal, there is actually a strong positivity to whites embracing black music and culture no matter how vulgar it is. This is actually the inverse of racism and extreme segregation because usually the racist would find disgust with things that really don't deserve it whereas whites are embracing music with lyrics and themes that usually are somewhat disgusting but also violent and often involving hyperbole with any conflict it can. Rap is easy to dislike from a distance but it's without a doubt the most black-thing other than Jazz that there is (blues are not all-black, whites got their fair share of blues history). Jazz and rap were quintessential black music genres and if the whites of the society want to embrace it, what are they going to start to do when every time the n-word comes they need to flinch and get a panic attack (because usually if you are high or drunk at a concert or party you are even less inclined to be 'on-guard' about saying things and really want to let loose and go with the flow singing along.

You either have to say no black rapper should use the word if they want white fans or you should say that no segregation against whites and their ability to let loose, not be on-guard and have to panic about slipping up and being beaten or kicked out for enjoying a song. It's not just at a party or concert though, this is anywhere they are rapping along to it. Why on Earth do blacks who haven't spend a single minute, let alone day, as a slave deserve to oppress whites in 'revenge'? Revenge for what? You are not your ancestor, you didn't spend a damn day on the field, you deserve literally nothing.
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Round 2
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What I say is undeniable and that's a fact.

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Round 3
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Round 4
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Round 5
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If Con brings a single new point or rebuttal in Round 5 I can't reply to it and it is poor conduct. You can't let them win based on something I can't fight against or defend, I made this a 5-Round debate for a reason and wanted an in-depth fair fight for both sides.
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--> @Alec
The only white-looking but not actually white rapper I have heard use it who remotely 'made it' had his whole career killed by beef that resulted from not just the song where he said it but diss raps he made to rappers who alienated him for his nasty approach to rap.
His rap-name is The Jokerr.
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#6
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Sorry about the confusion. Since he raps quickly, I thought the phrase, "A minimal swap to cop millions of PAC listeners" said, "A minimal swap to cop N***** are pop listeners".
#5
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--> @Alec
https://genius.com/Eminem-till-i-collapse-lyrics
Instigator
#4
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Eminem does in Till I collapse.
#3
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--> @MuhammadDavis
Which white rapper says it?
Instigator
#2
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--> @RationalMadman, @Aporia
I agree, i think that the N word has been socially degraded. I don't know how many times i have heard multiple white people say it. The many times i hear Black and White rappers say this word amazes me.
#1
#4
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Con never showed up.
#3
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Full forfeit
#2
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Full forfeit.
#1
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Con made no effort which is sad since I think this would have been a great debate.