Instigator / Pro
20
1485
rating
91
debates
46.15%
won
Topic
#1539

Rock Battle

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
6
6
Better sources
6
6
Better legibility
4
3
Better conduct
4
3

After 4 votes and with 2 points ahead, the winner is...

David
Tags
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
18
1687
rating
555
debates
68.11%
won
Description

You know the drill.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Im of the harder rock persuasion, so ratman is the clear winner for me. The better disturbed song, pain is an amazing song, and skillet is great. I think ive been confusing them with skrillex, so was biased against them.

Fletwood mac is in no way country. It is folk rock similar to tom petty and Simon and Garfunkel. 100% rock, 100% not a fan.

Pro had some excellent choices, like dream on. But overall con had superior choices (imo).

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

R1-RM's song felt very emo, but it was a bit better than Virt's song, "Pain" was just too powerful in my opinion, solid start by both however. 1-0 to RM
R2-RM's song was energetic an flowed well, despite the lead singers horrible piercings, Virt's song was fine, but a win none the less for RM. 2-0 in favour of RM.
R3- Virt's song is awesome, very catchy and some solid vocals to back that up, RM's song was okay at the beginning, but the ending was very nice, however Virt's song was amazing from beginning to end, my favourite song in the debate. Virt wins. 2-1
R4-Damn Dream on was strong, ended well and kept me entertained all the way through. RM's song was better though, loved the drop and lyrics, my favourite round in the whole debate. 3-1
R5-Despite the weird piercings and Virt's song being a meme, it was genuinely good, RM's song was very catchy with superior vocals however. RM wins the round and debate. 4-1 in favour of RM

In short, both offered solid songs, I generally preferred RM's songs though, one problem I had with a few songs was struggling to understand what was being said, although it didn't persuade me to change my vote for any of the rounds. Also, Virt's R5 in my opinion wasn't rock, but I opted to count it as rock anyway. Sadly there can only be one winner, but both competitors ought to be mighty proud, solid songs all the way through, a true pleasure to vote on.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

R1: Love both of these songs, so this is a tight one. By a small margin, Pro's "Under Your Scars" takes it.
R2: Two great Disturbed songs, but an easier choice this round. Con's "Stricken" is one of my favorites of theirs, so it takes this round.
R3: I do view Fleetwood Mac as rock, including this song, though it certainly takes some influence from country. This is an easy choice; though I'm a big fan of both of these songs (Paramore rocks as well), Pro's "The Chain" is probably my favorite of the songs of any of those presented in this debate, so it takes this round.
R4: Another easy choice despite excellent band choices on both sides (personally wouldn't have picked this particular song from Foo Fighters, but that's just me). "Dream On" is another one of my absolute favorites, so Pro takes this round.
R5: This is another really tough one. "Sound of Silence" is absolutely beautifully covered by Disturbed here, and I listen to this one on repeat. However, I can't give them credit for those incredible lyrics, since it is a cover, so it loses some ground against Con's choice. I have to give it to Skillet's "The Resistance" here - it may not be my favorite song by the band, but it's damn good.

That's 3-2 in favor of Pro, so that's how the points will be awarded.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

I'll just award the win per round

R1

Pro - Immediately love the piano opening so nice! The voice is ok but gives me country vibes, drop is eh but after that it's not bad at all!

Con - Not a huge fan of rock but this wasn't bad, I hate the drop though but it's alright

Pro wins

R2

Pro - I like the buildup, but I hate guitar so after that it's like ew, the lyrics are ok but the screaming is dramatic to me

Con - This is just Pro's song without the intro to me, it's different in a way but eh

Tied

R3

Pro - Ok sounds country starting off, it's catchy!! I like what they do with the alternating voices a lot!

I'm allowing it as rock since Con seemed ok with it

Con - I like it off the bat, it's a different style of alternative, it's short enough to loop though so hmm

Tied once again

R4

Pro - Well this is the only song I actually know I think, I like it starting out slowly, it like deliberately builds up for a while, it's disappointing when it doesn't drop when I expect it to though

Con - Funny lyrics, I don't mind this tempo, it's weirdly catchy?

Con by a small margin

R5

Pro - Oh this song! I didn't know that's where these lyrics can't from. This dude's really deep voice works really well somehow

Con - I like the rhyming, nice voices and the screaming is bearable lol, so it's not that bad, and I like how it's all put together

The voice in Pro's is amazing so he wins

For the record, I would've discounted Pro's R3 and R5 completely if Con had asked me to, neither really struck me as rock