Instigator / Pro
47
1588
rating
23
debates
67.39%
won
Topic
#1565

Abortion should, in most cases, be illegal.

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
21
0
Better sources
14
6
Better legibility
7
3
Better conduct
5
2

After 7 votes and with 36 points ahead, the winner is...

Patmos
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
11
1485
rating
91
debates
46.15%
won
Description

I will be holding the position that abortion should always be illegal except for in those cases wherein the life of the mother is put in abnormal danger by pregnancy and the child cannot be safely removed from the womb by doctors and kept alive.

aint nobodies business if you do

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@Patmos

Glad to hear you're not trying to fill that character limit (and yeah, I've debated people who have).

I apologize for lumping you in with the anti-choice advocates I have previously debated. They lowered my faith on the viewpoint, but you did not; you likely have a wholly fresh take on the issue. So I wish you the best on this debate. I'll be sure to at least skim your unique viewpoints when the debate finishes.
(obviously if I vote I'll read the whole case)

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@Barney

I've no intention of writing a 30,000 character case. It will probably be more in the 10-12 thousand character range. what a high character limit does is it allows all arguments to be unpacked in full without having to sacrifice detailed arguments in order to stay below a character limit. I intended for the character limit to be far above what actually gets used.

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@Barney

I'm not quite sure that Caleb would be "one of the best of them". That was his only debate (at least on this site).

And it isn't "anti-choice" per say. It is more anti-abortion. It would only be anti-choice in the sense of how normal laws work. Public urination is a choice, just not one that we allow as a society.

Contraception, raising the kid, adoption, and abstinence are four choices we all support ;)

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@bmdrocks21

I've debated many anti-choice advocates. Even the very best of them (https://www.debateart.com/debates/1024/should-abortion-be-made-illegal) had to call women real estate (as opposed to people) to support his opinions against them.

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@Barney

Why do you believe this debate usually involves misogyny?

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@PressF4Respect

"What's wrong with a high character limit?"
1. Decreased voters
2. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop#Argumentum_ad_tl.3Bdr
3. I don't want to read a potential 150,000 characters of misogyny, and pick which bits I reply to (no matter how concise my replies).

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@Patmos

The position you hold is in fact, that abortion should not always be illegal.

Also.
How do you differentiate between slightly dangerous, normal danger, abnormal danger etc?

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@Barney

What's wrong with a high character limit? It's a character cap (which can actually stop someone from putting forth their argument in their entirety), not a minimum requirement, and your argument can be as many or as few words as you want.

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@David

Good luck. If not for the massive character limit for something which often boils down to misogyny, I would have accepted the challenge.

Why such a high character limit?