Instigator / Pro
0
1337
rating
26
debates
9.62%
won
Topic
#1574

Utah is what happens when hipsters infest a red state

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Winner
0
1

After 1 vote and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Winner selection
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
1
1709
rating
564
debates
68.17%
won
Description

Salt Lake City is diverse and progressive. In the past eight years, it's been ranked as the third-most hipster city in the world, the queerest city in America, and the fourth-best city for millennials to live in. Millennials make up nearly half of the city’s mortgages, compared to the national average of 9%. Nearly 1 in 4 city residents is Hispanic. In some neighborhoods, two-thirds of school children speak Spanish at home. no red state is safe https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-next-red-state-to-turn-purple-utah

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pro asserts that Utah is what happens when hipsters infest a red state. Pro explains this by showing a movement of younger people into the state, making the state vote much more left wing than it has in a long time.

Con asks Pro to prove it is an "infestation" and to prove that Utah "happened", in a semantics argument.

Pro *admits* that he was using loaded language and talks about the progressiveness of Salt Lake City.

Con pokes holes in pro's resolution by explaining that Utah did not "happen", that the word "infestation" has negative connotations and in this case there is nothing necessarily negative going on, and that the people who did these things are not really "hipsters", negating Pro's points about leftist leanings in the state since people leftist leanings do not equal hipsters

Pro drops all of Con's arguments and makes a case that Con has already rebutted.

Con should have restated Pro's mistake but insults Pro and drops the bad argument; this is a mistake but ultimately Con successfully muddied the waters of Pro's case via semantics and Pro dropped all of Con's points.