Instigator / Pro
36
1337
rating
26
debates
9.62%
won
Topic
#1607

Socialism is inevitable in the USA

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
18
18
Better sources
12
12
Better legibility
6
6
Better conduct
0
6

After 6 votes and with 6 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
42
1687
rating
555
debates
68.11%
won
Description

Socialism is cool with the kids, so hang on to your dentures and your government medicare here comes the left and lots of red flags https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTjMqda19wk

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@Barney

Now I know.

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@RationalMadman
@Barney

Thanks guys. Sorry I've been slammed the past few days.

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@Barney

Fair enough

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@Username
@bmdrocks21
@sigmaphil
@Trent0405
@SirAnonymous

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>Reported Vote: SupaDudz, armoredcat, bmdrocks21, sigmaphil, SirAnonymous, Trent0405 // Mod action: Removed
>Points Awarded: 0:7; All points to Con.
>Reason for Decision: See Comments Tab.
>Reason for Mod Action:
Your votes have been deleted at the specific and repeated request of con (the person you voted for). While I am sorry for doing this, given that there was no malice from any of you, just an honest mistake made by the majority of people looking at this debate; but in re-review pro did indeed say something in R2, which makes this not an actual full forfeiture.

From the CoC: "A full-forfeit debate is defined as a debate that has no argument presented by one side following the opening round, resulting in all subsequent rounds being forfeited. When this is the case, these debates are considered full-forfeit debates and are not moderated unless a voter votes for the forfeiting side."

And as a general reminder for lesser forfeitures: People forfeit by degrees. Any unexcused forfeited rounds merits a conduct loss. However, for less than a 50% forfeiture, arguments must still be voted on or justified as a tie. ... Which is to say, conduct only awards are fine on debates like this, without going into any analysis.
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SupaDudz
4 hours ago
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments ✗ ✗ ✔ 3 points
Better sources ✗ ✗ ✔ 2 points
Better spelling and grammar ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Better conduct ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Reason:
Boo socialism

armoredcat
6 hours ago
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments ✗ ✗ ✔ 3 points
Better sources ✗ ✗ ✔ 2 points
Better spelling and grammar ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Better conduct ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Reason:
Pro argued for something other than his resolution. Also eph eph

bmdrocks21
7 hours ago
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments ✗ ✗ ✔ 3 points
Better sources ✗ ✗ ✔ 2 points
Better spelling and grammar ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Better conduct ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Reason:
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

sigmaphil
8 hours ago
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments ✗ ✗ ✔ 3 points
Better sources ✗ ✗ ✔ 2 points
Better spelling and grammar ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Better conduct ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Reason:
Full Forfeit...

SirAnonymous
1 day ago
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments ✗ ✗ ✔ 3 points
Better sources ✗ ✗ ✔ 2 points
Better spelling and grammar ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Better conduct ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Reason:
FF and failure to meet BOP.

Trent0405
1 day ago
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments ✗ ✗ ✔ 3 points
Better sources ✗ ✗ ✔ 2 points
Better spelling and grammar ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Better conduct ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Reason:
Full Forfeit.

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@David

Please can you inform your staff of their duties.

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@RationalMadman

If it's more than half, it technically is a FF if I'm not mistaken.

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@RationalMadman

He forfeited 3 of the 5 rounds.

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@blamonkey

I reported the votes. This isn't FF. He posted R1 and R2.

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@SirAnonymous

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>Reported Vote: SirAnonymous // Mod action: [Not Removed]

>Points Awarded: 7 points to Con

>Reason for Decision: "FF and failure to meet BOP."

>Reason for Mod Action: FF debates, barring other circumstances that take priority, are not subject to moderation. While technically not a full-forfeit, the Moderation Extended Policy offers a precedent:
https://www.debateart.com/debates/726/prescription-medication-is-poison?comments_page=1&votes_page=1
As this debate is not fully forfeited either but is still classified as a FF per the extended guidelines, I am confident that this debate constitutes an FF as well.
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@Trent0405

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>Reported Vote: Trent0405 // Mod action: [Not Removed]

>Points Awarded: 7 points to Con

>Reason for Decision: "Full Forfeit."

>Reason for Mod Action: FF debates, barring other circumstances that take priority, are not subject to moderation. While technically not a full-forfeit, the Moderation Extended Policy offers a precedent:
https://www.debateart.com/debates/726/prescription-medication-is-poison?comments_page=1&votes_page=1
As this debate is not fully forfeited either but is still classified as a FF per the extended guidelines, I am confident that this debate constitutes an FF as well.
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@Barney

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>Reported Vote: Ragnar // Mod action: [Not Removed]

>Points Awarded: 7 points to Con

>Reason for Decision: "FF."

>Reason for Mod Action: FF debates, barring other circumstances that take priority, are not subject to moderation. While technically not a full-forfeit, the Moderation Extended Policy offers a precedent:
https://www.debateart.com/debates/726/prescription-medication-is-poison?comments_page=1&votes_page=1
As this debate is not fully forfeited either but is still classified as a FF per the extended guidelines, I am confident that this debate constitutes an FF as well.
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@blanks

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>Reported Vote: blanks // Mod action: [Removed]
>Points Awarded: 7 points to Con
>Reason for Decision:
"Forfeited."
>Reason for Mod Action: While the RFD would normally be justified, the user is not eligible to vote per the Voting Policy. For more information, please scroll to the bottom of the screen to view the Code of Conduct and search for the voting policy. Alternatively, follow this URL:
https://info.debateart.com/statements/code-of-conduct#voter-eligibility
Thank you for your cooperation.
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