Instigator / Pro
Points: 36

Socialism is inevitable in the USA

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After 6 votes the winner is ...
RationalMadman
Debate details
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Politics
Time for argument
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Two weeks
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Required rating
1
Contender / Con
Points: 42
Description
Socialism is cool with the kids, so hang on to your dentures and your government medicare here comes the left and lots of red flags https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTjMqda19wk
Round 1
Published:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlrDpTGRREA&amp=&lc=z22qvt3irtazcxvps04t1aokgpvidfrxqkua3t21lhizrk0h00410  “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.”

― H.L. Mencken, A Little Book in C Major   https://www.thenation.com/article/socialism-milwaukee-democrats-2020/ we can work it out we can work it out

Published:
So far 0 proof that it's inevitable.
Round 2
Published:
can i actually proove this ? to a certainty ? no way ..and i dont think i have to but i do have to provide some sort of proof that socialism is growing  and powerful and has an army and economy and a compelling economic model and i do think i can do that.. ladies and gentleman i present the peoples republic of china https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJCDDmBPdHs&t=1347s china is big it has nukes and it is expanding in 100 years they will dominate the world economy we are dying they are growing  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WKLskz1w9k&t=152s and these videos are my proof watch them and see i am right 

and you say that is a dictatorship! okay fair enough but there will be room for economies like this also working well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaELQS5kTso democracy will survie under socialist policy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_lnKjTqwww&t=9s lots of proof social democracy is thriving 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfANf1I4sUQ&t=62s okay watch all these videos they show leftist economies doing very well and expanding and making a good example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFSmaztcP4c
this good example is proof that they will expand and take over
the founders believed tha the usa should lead by example and there are many positive socialist economic models from socialist market economy to social democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKGwGAHznFQ&t=51s if you want more proof inequality is an issue that is super critical all over the world
as is environmental crisis  , and the only solution to the se problems is socialism because of the amount of government regulation and production restriction needed
there lots  of logic and proof for you to sift through
Forfeited
Round 3
Forfeited
Published:
It's not inevitable, it's just remotely plausible. Nothing my opponent has shown displays the inevitability of Socialism in USA, only that he thinks it's possible and that the implemention could possibly, improbably, occur.
Round 4
Forfeited
Published:
inevitable
adjective

UK
 

 
/ɪˈnev.ɪ.tə.bəl/
 
US
 

 
/ˌɪnˈev.ə.t̬ə.bəl/

C1
certain to happen and unable to be avoided or prevented:
The accident was the inevitable consequence/result/outcome of carelessness.

It's not inevitable, just possible.
Round 5
Forfeited
Published:
Conduct
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--> @Ragnar
Now I know.
#13
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--> @RationalMadman, @Ragnar
Thanks guys. Sorry I've been slammed the past few days.
#12
Added:
--> @Ragnar
Fair enough
#11
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--> @sigmaphil, @SirAnonymous, @Trent0405, @armoredcat, @bmdrocks21
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>Reported Vote: SupaDudz, armoredcat, bmdrocks21, sigmaphil, SirAnonymous, Trent0405 // Mod action: Removed
>Points Awarded: 0:7; All points to Con.
>Reason for Decision: See Comments Tab.
>Reason for Mod Action:
Your votes have been deleted at the specific and repeated request of con (the person you voted for). While I am sorry for doing this, given that there was no malice from any of you, just an honest mistake made by the majority of people looking at this debate; but in re-review pro did indeed say something in R2, which makes this not an actual full forfeiture.
From the CoC: "A full-forfeit debate is defined as a debate that has no argument presented by one side following the opening round, resulting in all subsequent rounds being forfeited. When this is the case, these debates are considered full-forfeit debates and are not moderated unless a voter votes for the forfeiting side."
And as a general reminder for lesser forfeitures: People forfeit by degrees. Any unexcused forfeited rounds merits a conduct loss. However, for less than a 50% forfeiture, arguments must still be voted on or justified as a tie. ... Which is to say, conduct only awards are fine on debates like this, without going into any analysis.
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#10
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SupaDudz
4 hours ago
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments ✗ ✗ ✔ 3 points
Better sources ✗ ✗ ✔ 2 points
Better spelling and grammar ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Better conduct ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Reason:
Boo socialism
armoredcat
6 hours ago
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments ✗ ✗ ✔ 3 points
Better sources ✗ ✗ ✔ 2 points
Better spelling and grammar ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Better conduct ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Reason:
Pro argued for something other than his resolution. Also eph eph
bmdrocks21
7 hours ago
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments ✗ ✗ ✔ 3 points
Better sources ✗ ✗ ✔ 2 points
Better spelling and grammar ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Better conduct ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Reason:
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
sigmaphil
8 hours ago
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments ✗ ✗ ✔ 3 points
Better sources ✗ ✗ ✔ 2 points
Better spelling and grammar ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Better conduct ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Reason:
Full Forfeit...
SirAnonymous
1 day ago
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments ✗ ✗ ✔ 3 points
Better sources ✗ ✗ ✔ 2 points
Better spelling and grammar ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Better conduct ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Reason:
FF and failure to meet BOP.
Trent0405
1 day ago
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments ✗ ✗ ✔ 3 points
Better sources ✗ ✗ ✔ 2 points
Better spelling and grammar ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Better conduct ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Reason:
Full Forfeit.
#9
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--> @Virtuoso
Please can you inform your staff of their duties.
Contender
#8
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--> @RationalMadman
If it's more than half, it technically is a FF if I'm not mistaken.
#7
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--> @RationalMadman
He forfeited 3 of the 5 rounds.
#6
Added:
--> @blamonkey
I reported the votes. This isn't FF. He posted R1 and R2.
Contender
#5
Added:
--> @SirAnonymous
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>Reported Vote: SirAnonymous // Mod action: [Not Removed]
>Points Awarded: 7 points to Con
>Reason for Decision: "FF and failure to meet BOP."
>Reason for Mod Action: FF debates, barring other circumstances that take priority, are not subject to moderation. While technically not a full-forfeit, the Moderation Extended Policy offers a precedent:
https://www.debateart.com/debates/726/prescription-medication-is-poison?comments_page=1&votes_page=1
As this debate is not fully forfeited either but is still classified as a FF per the extended guidelines, I am confident that this debate constitutes an FF as well.
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#4
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--> @Trent0405
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>Reported Vote: Trent0405 // Mod action: [Not Removed]
>Points Awarded: 7 points to Con
>Reason for Decision: "Full Forfeit."
>Reason for Mod Action: FF debates, barring other circumstances that take priority, are not subject to moderation. While technically not a full-forfeit, the Moderation Extended Policy offers a precedent:
https://www.debateart.com/debates/726/prescription-medication-is-poison?comments_page=1&votes_page=1
As this debate is not fully forfeited either but is still classified as a FF per the extended guidelines, I am confident that this debate constitutes an FF as well.
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#3
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--> @Ragnar
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>Reported Vote: Ragnar // Mod action: [Not Removed]
>Points Awarded: 7 points to Con
>Reason for Decision: "FF."
>Reason for Mod Action: FF debates, barring other circumstances that take priority, are not subject to moderation. While technically not a full-forfeit, the Moderation Extended Policy offers a precedent:
https://www.debateart.com/debates/726/prescription-medication-is-poison?comments_page=1&votes_page=1
As this debate is not fully forfeited either but is still classified as a FF per the extended guidelines, I am confident that this debate constitutes an FF as well.
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#2
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>Reported Vote: blanks // Mod action: [Removed]
>Points Awarded: 7 points to Con
>Reason for Decision:
"Forfeited."
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#1
#6
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Pro ff the majority of the rounds, that's poor conduct!
#5
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Excessive forfeiture by Pro.
At this point in time I believe I have made 69 votes on debates. As that is the sex number, I find it imperative to not make any more votes on debates until I have matured in comedic taste to the point where I no longer find this funny.
#4
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
50+% forfeit
#3
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Pro forfeited over 50% of this debate.
#2
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Pro forfeited over half his rounds.
#1
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Mass forfeiture. Dropped to conduct only by request.