Instigator / Pro
Points: 11

There is nothing wrong with pineapple on a pizza

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WaterPhoenix
Debate details
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Philosophy
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Contender / Con
Points: 21
Description
-- BoP --
Con has to prove that putting pineapple pizza a wrong of some sort
Pro has to refute Con's arguments
Round 1
Published:
BoP rests on Con, so I await his case.
Published:
Definitions:
Pizza: A dish made typically of flattened bread dough spread with a savory mixture usually including tomatoes and cheese and often other toppings and baked
Pineapple: A tropical monocotyledonous plant (Ananas comosus of the family Bromeliaceae, the pineapple family) that has rigid spiny-margined recurved leaves and a short stalk with a dense oblong head of small abortive flowers

Pineapple on pizza is absolutely disgusting and it's the 3rd most disliked pizza topping in the U.S alone. [1] Making it a waste of resources that not many people even eat. It also creates a lot of unhealthy controversy for pizza in general.

























Sources:
Round 2
Published:
Hello and thanks for responding. Let's get right into it!


Clash

Pineapple on pizza is absolutely disgusting
Discounted. This statement is highly opinion based, with no factual evidence. We could just go back and fourth on this, but instead, let's move on.

Waste of resources
How so? I suppose enough Hawaiian pizzas are made each year for consumers to consume them, just like any other pizza; unless you have a study showing otherwise.

Unhealthy controversy for pizza in general
Check this list. Who's number one?


Argument

Hmm... I have some space left, so I would like to just throw this out.

  • Pineapple is a fruit
  • Tomato is a fruit
  • Tomato goes on pizza
  • Pineapple is okay for pizza
Thank you.
Published:
Refutes:
 This statement is highly opinion based, with no factual evidence.
Did you even read what I wrote right after that?
unless you have a study showing otherwise.
As a matter of fact, I do. It's in the sources of my first argument.
Check this list. Who's number one?
Uhm, this list just proves the point I made about pineapple pizza being controversial...

Tomato goes on pizza
Tomato doesn't go on pizza it goes in pizza.

Thanks.
Round 3
Published:
Hello and let's jump into this! Starting off with some clash...

Clash

Did you even read what I wrote right after that?
I did. Notice how "3rd most disliked pizza topping" is also an opinion in a way. Just people the majority of people don't like it, doesn't make it wrong. There are plenty of example of this, and since this does not prove pineapple on pizza is wrong, then this falls short of your BoP.

As a matter of fact, I do. It's in the sources of my first argument.
Not what I meant. I was clearly referring to a study showing how pineapple pizza wastes resources.

Pineapple pizza being controversial
The site claims to use the word "influential" in a good way. It even claims pineapple pizza as having "one of pizza’s most divisive flavors."

Tomato doesn't go on pizza it goes in pizza.
No it doesn't. If you're referring to pizza as the dough, then we put tomatoes on the dough. If you're referring to pizza as the entire thing, well, that doesn't change anything. So if we can put tomatoes on pizza, we can put pineapple on pizza. No need for technicality.

Thank you.
Published:
Refutes:

I did. Notice how "3rd most disliked pizza topping" is also an opinion in a way. Just people the majority of people don't like it, doesn't make it wrong. There are plenty of example of this, and since this does not prove pineapple on pizza is wrong, then this falls short of your BoP.
No, if the majority of people don't like something then it's not very useful to society, making it wrong.
Not what I meant. I was clearly referring to a study showing how pineapple pizza wastes resources.
Again, if the majority of people don't like it then it's a waste of resources.
The site claims to use the word "influential" in a good way. It even claims pineapple pizza as having "one of pizza’s most divisive flavors."
Oxford Dictionary: di·vi·sive
/dəˈvīsiv/

adjective

  1. tending to cause disagreement or hostility between people.
Disagreement isn't a good thing.
No need for technicality.
I am referring to pizza topping (just as you were clearly referring to toppings). Tomato is not a pizza topping.



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had to drop a vote
#28
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--> @bmdrocks21
lol!
Instigator
#27
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--> @DynamicSquid
In the wise words of Greta Thunberg: "How dare you!"
#26
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--> @WaterPhoenix
LoL.
#25
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--> @Trent0405
"there is at least one thing wrong with pineapple pizza."
EVERYTHING
Contender
#24
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--> @bmdrocks21
Eh, green peppers and mushrooms aren't for me
Instigator
#23
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Vote con!
Contender
#22
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--> @DynamicSquid
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiZjbPe2sfmAhUuAZ0JHeNVCKgQjRx6BAgBEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fpointnshoot%2F5715181594&psig=AOvVaw1KzbvWtSlDZAgpj1G-_w-M&ust=1577050936224884
This is my type of pizza
#21
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--> @DynamicSquid
Well, the Hawaiian pizza isn't that bad if you take the pineapple off. I usually picked it off when my family got it.
Ham and bacon are nice >:D
#20
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--> @bmdrocks21
Of course I put pineapple on my pasta!
Kidding, I don't.
But would you rather eat this:
https://i.redd.it/jrt92igp8vf01.jpg
or
https://i.cbc.ca/1.3993184.1501161170!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/84904861.jpg
Instigator
#19
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--> @WaterPhoenix
Absolutely. Check out some previous comments to squid. Had a good discussion with him earlier.
#18
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--> @bmdrocks21
Do I have your permission to use that as one of my main points?
Contender
#17
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--> @WaterPhoenix
It is garb garb. End of story.
#16
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--> @bmdrocks21
Ok, give me your expert opinion then.
Contender
#15
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--> @WaterPhoenix
I am an expert. You can interview me for my professional opinion.
#14
#3
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
As a Chicagoan, I am very passionate on Hot Dogs and Pizza
Pro source outweighs CON because it is a direct refute to the point, while CON's is talking about influence, which does not mean anything due to the fact that the source is invalid it is called divisive, therefore that source is turned and CON gets point.
CON does not deep enough into his source and instead really just says, look at it. CON's point that Tomato is in the Pizza outweighs since a contrasting flavor overall in Pizza can be acceptable, as it used in Pizza. I feel as if the BoP by CON is never contested enough by PRO in the case and does not go after the points enough. I think the Pineapple as a waste of sources is a weak argument overall, so I don't evaluate any sides. I think the BoP is better defended by CON, so I will give args to CON
#2
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Honestly the debate did not get deep enough for me to clearly say if there is something wrong or not.
The most standout argument I would say is that pineapple pizzas just go into the garbage. It so wanted to be a great argument, but made no sense. It's about like saying some people prefer steak, so salads should not be an option.
The defense of tomato is an interesting point. I've personally had sliced tomato as a topping many times, but both debaters seemed to believe that tomato only goes on pizza in sauce form... A problem here is that just because it's accepted, would not mean there's nothing wrong with it; especially since con did not make the argument that pineapple is wrong for being a fruit; and it's an apples to oranges comparison anyway.
So the one point of the debate I will say has a clear lead is the sources. Con flipped pro's source to be in his favor. Perhaps were the debate to have gone on another round, pro might have shown that such matters only make pizza more popular as a whole, but as is, pro's own source was used to imply there might be something wrong with pineapple on pizza. Had the debate gone another round and such a point was not raised, I would likely be giving arguments to con (I give less weight to things in the final round after no one can respond).
#1
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
I don't buy Con's argument that pineapple on pizza is a waste of resources, Pro notes that Con would have to prove that too much pineapple pizza is being produced in relation to what's being consumed, he never does this.
The BoP for pro is to prove there is nothing wrong with pineapple on pizza. Con proved to me that pineapple on pizza caused unnecessary controversy for being so divisive. Funnily enough, it turns out that Pro's source intended to rebut this merely supported Con's statement. Pro's source also just says pineapple pizza is influential, this doesn't address the statement that pineapple on pizza is controversial as Con points out. So Con demonstrated that, despite how influential pineapple on pizza is, it's divisive and causes unhealthy controversy. Therefore I'm lead to believe that there is at least one thing wrong with pineapple pizza.