Instigator / Pro
6
1432
rating
11
debates
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Topic
#1740

Anyone reading this debate should help or create a future super artificial intelligence

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
3
3
Better sources
2
2
Better legibility
0
1
Better conduct
1
1

After 1 vote and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

oromagi
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
14,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
7
1922
rating
117
debates
97.44%
won
Description

At some point it is likely or possible a technological singularity will occur sometime after we create a self improving super artificial intelligence. Anyone reading this debate should help to create that super AI.

Super AI = "Super AI is AI that surpasses human intelligence and ability. It’s also known as artificial superintelligence (ASI) or superintelligence. It’s the best at everything — maths, science, medicine, hobbies, you name it. Even the brightest human minds cannot come close to the abilities of super AI." https://www.thinkautomation.com/bots-and-ai/types-of-ai-distinguishing-between-weak-strong-and-super-ai/

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@Barney

thanks. It was a very interesting topic about which I knew almost nothing when I started.

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@oromagi

Congrats... Very narrow margin!

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@Christen

Actually it all tied in, and focusing on one or two arguments was not possible. I had one argument that was supported by a very very long chain of logic. You didn't understand the logic partly because you have a 2 digit IQ and partly because I did a shitty job of explaining it, but the grammar point was stupid. You only award grammar in very specific circumstances that occur in fewer than 1% of debates and this debate did not fall into that category

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@Singularity

It was not "retarded" and I don't find "your native language" to be a valid excuse for not organizing your stuff better, and at least putting Con's arguments in quote boxes to at least make some things easier to follow.

I would argue that comprehension was tough because of a combination of the difficulty of the subject, some of your grammar errors, some of your irrelevant arguments, and you failing to organize things property like Con.

If you find that it would take over more characters just to explain a few things, you should have set the character count to as high as possible (which it wasn't), and/or focus on 1 or 2 specific key arguments that you believed or knew would be the strongest arguments against Con's case.

I was not very organized. I realized after starting this to thoroughly explain the topic actually would take closer to 60,000 characters. The spelling and grammar criticisms were retarded though. My native language is not english. It is a point that should only be used when spelling and grammar needed to be better for comprehension. Comprehension was tough because of the difficulty of the subject not because of spelling and grammar

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@Christen
@skittlez09

Thanks Christen. Lilcookie was just saying not to underestimate the value of superior organization in debate

Things that go 'bump' in the night
Should not really give one a fright.
It's the hole in each ear
That lets in the fear,
That, and the absence of light!

"Bump"
-Spike Milligan

I actually wanted to quit this debate for that reason, but I feel like I am winning and oromagi is undefeated. That is, if I can overcome the inherent bias against me, not just for my position but because people just give the better debater more benefit of a doubt with their arguments even in moments of inferior performance

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@Alec

I thought your comment was on another debate. The answer is no. I think it is far more important to help with things we can better comprehend rather than taking a guess at what somebody with god like intelligence will do

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@Alec

Yes, I am attempting to be significant anyway, but while also being morally good. I want positive impact. Negative impact is easy.

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@Singularity

Since you read the debate, are you leading by example?

After this debate perhaps we can talk about it. Again I don't want to give any help to either side.

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@Discipulus_Didicit

It is, and I am interested in your rebuttal

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@Singularity

If this is going to be a Roko's Basilisk debate I wish I had accepted before Oromagi. Easy win for con. Obviously I am not going to explain why because that would just help oro which would be incredibly rude of me but in short I am familiar with the concept but have serious doubts regarding that thought experiments litteral real-world application.

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@Singularity

If you haven't already, I suggest watching the TV show Person of Interest.

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@Discipulus_Didicit

Yes, precisely. It is for your own good when our robot overlord comes.

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@Singularity

Help create Roko's Basilisk?

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@Discipulus_Didicit

After reading this debate, once it is finished, you will know what to do in terms of a career or life purpose.