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The Iran/US Conflict Proves How Unpatriotic White Americans & Immgrants Truly Are

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After 3 votes and with 14 points ahead, the winner is...

Zaradi
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With the growing tensions between Iran & The US, the draft became a hot topic. The data shows that white Americans were Not willing to fight for America if need be. This perfectly proves the hypocrisy, lies and cowardice of these people. Immigrants of America were also saying that they would leave The US & relocate back in their homelands if the draft was implemented.
These are the very people who stated that Colin Kaepernick was being unpatriotic for simply kneeling at a football game...Let's see who takes the challenge of trying to prove that white American & immigrants aren't the biggest hypocritical cowards in the US.....The ball is now in your court.

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@mairj23

i dont appreciate you insulting my kind

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@Zaradi

Man, that was a close one! How did you manage?

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@mairj23

Because I read your debates and they are never substantive. I would not like to waste more time on you. If I was able to fit a debate in, I would like it to be worthwhile and thought-provoking, not responding to your incoherent rant about "white people bad".

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@bmdrocks21

My comments always seem to vanish for no reason.

I proposed a debate about this topic to go in-depth but you refuse to step in the ring because you're terrified to face me 1 on 1.
Why won't u simply create the debate an invite me to it?

The ball is in your court.

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@mairj23

Why did you delete your last message?

Also, this has nothing to do with who is indigenous to a region. It has a lot to do with who makes up the majority of the population and determining relative uses of things.

There really is nothing left to debate. You are wrong and seem incapable of grasping that. I won't waste any more time on you.

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@bmdrocks21

Another false equivalency...Chinese people are indigenous to China...whites are indigenous to Europe.

You've already admitted that whites get the most welfare. There's nothing left to debate.

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@Zaradi

Cage match more like it lol

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@mairj23

Woah your like a reverse white nationalist.

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@mairj23

Couldn’t answer a simple question. Figures....

Raw numbers are meaningless for this comparison lol. It is like saying that more Chinese people commit crimes in China than white people do, so therefore Chinese people baaad.

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@Zaradi

Lol...Bless his heart... He's giving it all he's got & is failing miserably.

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@bmdrocks21
@mairj23

Holy shit you two, just get a room already.

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@bmdrocks21

You're doing the right thing by standing down & you've already admitted to whites getting the most welfare.

Don't step in the ring if you don't want to get knocked out...…….. Peace!

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@mairj23

Lol, tell me, which group is more dependent on welfare? The group that is 40% dependent or 13%?

Go on, you can do it. Which group would have 40% of its members starving on the street and having no health insurance without the group you vilify?

I'lL wAiT.!.!.!.!

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@bmdrocks21

Lol. Stop Da Madness...Your very own lips just testified against you.

Whites are the biggest welfare case in history & history proves it.
If you feel so confident in who's given & taken, then why don't u simply create a debate about this topic.

Nahhhh, u don't have enough heart to step in the ring.

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@mairj23

I still stand by that..... If one group uses something more than 3 times more often per capita than the other group, I would say that group is a bigger financial problem, unless they paid more into it. That is by far not the case.

One group is a net contributor, while the other is a net taker. That is my point....

I hope you're not dropping a mic to that lol.

If you can follow a coherent thought process and understand how foolish you sounded, then I look forward to your response. If not, I will gladly embarrass you again.

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@bmdrocks21

A few days ago U said, "I'm showing you who has a serious addiction to the public welfare system. 13.2% vs 41.6% please tell me which has the bigger issues."

Today u said, "Yes we pay more and receive more raw amounts of welfare because of a larger population."

mic drop.....

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@Zaradi

Who's trash talking. I'm simply stating facts.

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@mairj23

You really gotta step up your trash talk game. You'll need better than "neener neener" to bother me. If my arguments are that god-awful, why didn't you ever respond to them? Surely it couldn't have been that difficult.

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@mairj23

Yes we pay more and receive more raw amount because of a larger population. Glad we can agree.

I’m saying that per capita, we pay a lot and receive relatively little. Do we agree there as well?

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@bmdrocks21

Whites pay more taxes because your population is larger which is why whites receive the most welfare.

You're just digging a bigger hole for your lack of argument & lack of education.

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@Zaradi

Lol. U don't care because u can't come up with a solid argument.

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@mairj23

Of course. It almost certainly wasn't the fact I made the comment at 3am and I just dont care enough about this debate to write a round that late. But cute attempt at trash talk, btw.

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@mairj23

I mean, if you want to play the raw numbers game, I could show how white people pay most of the taxes for said welfare programs. If anyone, they would deserve to use them, even those they have the lowest usage rates. They pay more per capita and raw numbers.

Your Newport and malt liquor taxes don’t really add up....

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@Zaradi

Lol...Don't you have one more argument to make in our little debate? Guess you're trying to come up with a good enough response to make sense out of the nonsense that you've been speaking.

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@mairj23

Oh honey, I have a lot of better things to do with my day than give a shit about Selective Service. But I will happily take that pot of gold off your hands, my credit card bill is coming up.

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@bmdrocks21

Black welfare recipients vs White welfare recipients
Black est. population 14% vs White est. population 60+%

No matter how hard you try to twist & reconfigure the numerical figures...It simply won't add up.

Class Dismissed

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@bmdrocks21

Maybe if I was still in 7th grade, maybe. It did get a solid giggle out of me, though.

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@Zaradi

Yeah, man. He just got a mic drop on you. No coming back from that one. Might as well leave the site and smash your computer to save your dignity.

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@bmdrocks21

Shit, if that's the case then how can I win? Might as well concede now lol.

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@Singularity

Yeah, I forgot that everything that disagrees with him (almost everything) is just a load of lies pushed by white supremacist Illuminati goons. Oops.

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@bmdrocks21

The only authentic statistics are ones that agree with his ideology. Nice try

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@mairj23

You caught me. I will find better statistics than the Census Bureau, Pew Research, and Statista can provide next time lol.

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@bmdrocks21

I simply take your trolling as a badge of honor because it lets me know that I'm definitely doing my job. lol

Try bringing some authentic statistics to the table next time...ok?

"And Nike deals."
A'ight. That one was good.

Thanks lol

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@Zaradi

That is kind of his shtick on this website. Don't mind him.

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@mairj23

I don't care who you were talking about, I'm showing you who has a serious addiction to the public welfare system. 13.2% vs 41.6% please tell me which has the bigger issues

;)

Holy racial hatred Batman.

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@bmdrocks21

WTH are you talking about?
https://shakaama.blogspot.com/2009/12/there-are-more-white-people-on-welfare.html...In other words, being 14% of the population, there are more whites on welfare then there are black people in the US.

You're so butthurt for being a coward that you don't even realize that I was speaking about Asian & Hispanic immigrants who said that they would return back to their homeland...Get your facts straight buddie.

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@MisterChris

It's always about race because this is the system that you built and benefit from.

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@Zaradi

I agree lmao

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@bmdrocks21

"And Nike deals."

A'ight. That one was good.

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@Vader

They both have two opposing sides. Lots of kneeling, national anthems, and Nike deals. Basically the same thing

American football should not be compared to a fucking war

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@Singularity

Yeah, that was my bad. I didn't supply that part of it.

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@bmdrocks21

Okay, I didn't take what percentage of whites were military age. Good point

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@Singularity

This shows the share of servicemen by race.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/214869/share-of-active-duty-enlisted-women-and-men-in-the-us-military/

The maximum age of active duty military is 35 (at least for joining)

If you consider how many military-aged people are white, they are overrepresented.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/07/30/most-common-age-among-us-racial-ethnic-groups/

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@bmdrocks21

Your source would indicate a disproportionate number of service members are non white, even if the majority are considered white.

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@mairj23

"You basically want the benefits of living here, but you refuse to put in any real work..."

At 41.6 percent, blacks were more likely to participate in government assistance programs in an average month.
o The black participation rate was followed by Hispanics at 36.4 percent, Asians or Pacific
Islanders at 17.8 percent, and non-Hispanic whites at 13.2 percent.

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2015/cb15-97.html

Oof, yeah, white people really expect benefits without putting in work.

Also, white people are the majority of military members.
https://www.cfr.org/article/demographics-us-military

Guess we have to fight and pay for all of the freedoms and free stuff you enjoy.

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@mairj23

For once, I'll agree with you that it is disgraceful and unpatriotic that many Americans have responded by being sympathetic to terrorism. At the same time, I don't think this is really relating to race.