Instigator / Con
34
1596
rating
9
debates
88.89%
won
Topic
#1802

Poverty Exists Only for Men

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
15
0
Better sources
10
8
Better legibility
5
3
Better conduct
4
3

After 5 votes and with 20 points ahead, the winner is...

Discipulus_Didicit
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Pro
14
1616
rating
32
debates
62.5%
won
Description

This debate title is a copy from a statement which Frankie has made in the fourms. This debate is a challenge to Frankie to back up this claim, a challenge which he will very likely decline due to the fact that he knows not-so-deep-down that the statement he has made is a false one.

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@Crocodile

i think its just if all opponetns finished the debate

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@DebateArt.com

how do you choose quality debates and how come this is one?

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@User_2006

Where are the stats for that? North Korea is closed for all resaerch

I don't know about all the policies, but in North Korea, poverty exists on 99% of the population, female or not.

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@Discipulus_Didicit

Spam be gone

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@Dr.Franklin

I accept your admission that you were wrong and acknowledge your resulting backpedal away from your previous bold claim.

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@Discipulus_Didicit

you are not interested in the truth at alll

i dont care about this debate

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@Dr.Franklin

"because I exageretd it, disc_dic is not interested in exaggerations"

Pointing out that your opponent is only interested in the truth is usually not considered an insult.

Furthermore the definitions we agreed to allowed more than enough room for exaggeration as fauxlaw has already pointed out. The fact that women experience more poverty than men means that you were wrong, it doesn't mean I cheated.

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@Discipulus_Didicit

You were the one who iniated it, talk about pointless debating

"It appears that Pro is arguing that poverty is worse for men because society prioritizes the fiscal health of women over men. This point is largely irrelevant to the resolution, so ultimately Pro fails to offer an ounce of evidence which supports the notion that "Poverty Exists Only for Men."

because I exageretd it, disc_dic is not interested in exaggerations

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@Dr.Franklin

I accept your admission that you were wrong and the resulting unwillingness to debate.

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@Discipulus_Didicit

LOL, I am not accepting any more debates, it is pointless

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@Discipulus_Didicit

Dispostion-the power to deal with something as one pleases.

Synonym-at the disposal of

Men are disposible for society and must be odebient

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@Discipulus_Didicit

Male obedience to the system

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@skittlez09

"everyone I don't like is an incel"

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@skittlez09

Whiteknight

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/011/869/internet_white_knight_colored_4350.jpg

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@Dr.Franklin

incel

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@Dr.Franklin

What does the word disposition mean then, kiddo?

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@Discipulus_Didicit

That is wrong,

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@Dr.Franklin

"You want male disposition"

I can only assume you don't know what the word disposition means since that is a nonsense sentence that has no meaning.

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@Discipulus_Didicit

Nah Im good, you are of course a feminist, you want male disposition, most people are feminists

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@Dr.Franklin

I am a feminist? Laughable. Want to debate that topic too Frankie?

The resolution would be "Discipulus_Didicit is a feminist". Present a reasonable definition of the word feminist and I will set the debate up right now.

feminist

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@Discipulus_Didicit

Ah, yes. I missed your misdirection. Sue me. I hesitated to vote on this debate, but will consider more and engage a vote.

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@fauxlaw

I would agree that the definition of "rare" which I proposed is way more lenient than would be fair. These definitions definitely favored my opponent. As I said in round 2:

"This is due to my very lenient definitions of the words 'only' and 'rare'. A stricter interpretation of the resolution would technically make my job a bit easier but the claim is outlandish enough that I think my job is easy enough as it is."

In theory the higher the number of exceptions allowed the easier this debate is for pro so I intentionally gave the definition a ridiculous value specifically with the intent to show just how ridiculous pro's claim is.

The parameters [definitions] offered for this debate, specifically with regard to "rare" is far too excessive at 30% to ave any meaning relative to the overall premise that only men are affected by poverty. For example, in an entirely different matter of an issue affecting a portion of the population, "rare" is defined as far less than 30%. According to NIH https://rarediseases.info.nih.gov/diseases/pages/31/faqs-about-rare-diseases - a rare disease in the United States is one affecting 200,000 people, or less, or 0.06% of the population. Not that disease and poverty are necessarily related, but that the condition of "rare" is considered so much less. Another factor: what is the most rare eye color? According to the World Atlas, https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/only-two-percent-of-the-worlds-population-have-this-trait/ar-BBT3LTR
only 2% of the world's population has green eyes. That's rare. 30% is not. Therefore, on its face, I consider this debate as useless by definition.

I accept Frankie's admission that he was wrong and his subsequent forfeit.

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@Dr.Franklin

Really? You are actually okay with all the definitions I laid out?

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@Barney

I assume you meant pro, in which case I may agree lol.

This is a fine example of a debate which needs more grading categories. Con deserves some points for the balls of accepting the challenge.