Instigator / Pro
10
1350
rating
29
debates
20.69%
won
Topic
#1838

Is COVID-19 & Natural Disasters God's Counter Punch For White People's Evil Nature?

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
15
Better sources
4
10
Better legibility
3
5
Better conduct
3
5

After 5 votes and with 25 points ahead, the winner is...

fauxlaw
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
8,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
35
1702
rating
77
debates
70.13%
won
Description

Since everyone is aware that Europeans/White People are considered to be the most evil racial group on earth, is it fair to say that God's judgement is coming into fruition for the white race via COVID-19 & natural disasters?...Whites have killed the most people, commits the most crime, have destroyed the eco systems and have put animals on the endangered species list. Even though other races have suffered from this virus etc, whites appear to be the main target.

The argument is "can white people reduce their evil acts to save themselves & the world?" Can Europeans erase their savage history/behavior of committing crimes against humanity? ONLY BRING FACTS TO THE DEBATE & LEAVE YOUR EMOTIONS AT THE DOOR.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

My main problem with Pro here is his inability to meet his BoP.
To put it simply Pro never seemed to argue that God was the cause of the corona virus. He would have to do this if he wanted to win the debate, but seeing that he failed to do so, his BoP is not fulfilled. As a result, Con must win arguments.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

ARGS to CON:
Even generically the popular argument "disaster X is punishment on people Y" should always fail. Even before the blanks are filled in, God is made racist, punishing sins by phenotype rather than individual deeds. Even before the blanks are filled, the haters are stuffing profane words in the mouth of what should be sacred. PRO offers no assertions or evidence, just racist insinuation and invective.

CON is to be applauded for responding contemplatively to angry screed.
*whites are less impacted than other phenotypes
*children are impacted in spite of blamelessness
*the Earth is not destroyed
*Yahweh has promised not to destroy the Earth

PRO begins R2 with "this debate isn't really about racism" and then irrelevantly bitches about white people for the rest of the round. PRO is so obsessed with talking about his fear of white people that he forgets his thesis

P1: God is punishing whites
C1: Then how come asians have it worse?
P2: CON is denial about the evil of white people, let's make a list of grievances.

CON correctly calls PRO's non-sequiturs, racism, unreason, and hypocrisy. Aren't we supposed to proving that PRO has special insight into God's intent? PRO never got started on proving God is punching people, PRO's only interest seemed off-topi e proving that white people merit the punch

SOURCES to CON:
As PRO explains: " I never speak in an absolute manner, so no data is needed"

VOCABULARY to CON
The European race has singlehandedly destroyed the earth and its people, which can't be debunked
Either PRO doesn't know what "destroy" means or PRO doesn't know what "debunk" means

CONDUCT to CON:
DART CODE of CONDUCT reads:

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Even when not directed at fellow DARTers, hate speech is considered poor conduct.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pro failed to substantiate their proposition.
Other than a few brief, somewhat racially biased allegations which were never properly addressed the debate thenceforth descended into a statistical contention/argument.

Throughout, Pro was overwhelmed by Con's Skill in all aspects of debate presentation.

The underlying motivation of Pro's argument was also self-defeating in terms of conduct.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

To show that covid-19 is a punishment from a divine being the following must be demonstrated at a bare minimum:

- Covid-19 was created by a divine being.
- If [insert action supposedly being punished] had hypothetically not happened then covid-19 would not exist.

Pro failed to even address either of these points wheras con was able to build a case that if covid-19 was actually being used as a punishment then only those supposedly being punished would be affected.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pro in their usual trollish way, never attempts to meet minimal BoP. The outcome was a foregone conclusion once "China" was mentioned, and can be summarized with a single statement from pro: "the world numbers of deaths recorded due to Covid-19 as of the above date, there have been 1.59 deaths per million among nations of predominately European descent, whereas, nations of predominately Asian descent have counted 3.75 deaths per million through the same date."

And yes, once you have God reaching his noodly appendage down to smite the non-whites to somehow punish the whites (for being so sympathetic?), it's nearly impossible to come back and prove that whites the only group not passed over by this virus.

Sources:
Statistics don't lie. Claiming the total number afterwards will be more dead whites, still doesn't exclude the non-whites God is apparently punishing by accident while drunk or whatever. Extra credit for using the Bible in this biblical debate (that should be a given from both sides, but somehow it wasn't on this one).

S&G:
ALL BOLD HURTS LEGIBILITY.
Comparatively, con was clear and even used headings.