Instigator / Pro
21
1522
rating
18
debates
58.33%
won
Topic
#1846

Donald Trump is more likely to lose if Joe Biden is the nominee than if Bernie Sanders is the nominee.

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
9
0
Better sources
6
4
Better legibility
3
2
Better conduct
3
0

After 3 votes and with 15 points ahead, the winner is...

Phenenas
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
6
1360
rating
19
debates
0.0%
won
Description

Since Joe Biden's surge on Super Tuesday, and the upending of Sanders' frontrunner status, there has been quite a lot of complaining in the more progressive corners of the internet. Namely, a lot of people claiming that "Now Trump is going to win", "This will be a repeat of 2016", as if Bernie had better chances. I'm making this debate to demonstrate that these worries are unjustified, born out of far-left echochambers on Reddit and Twitter rather than any logic or evidence. Biden has a far better shot than Hillary. And even Hillary, who only lost by a narrow margin, most likely had a better shot than Bernie. There is virtually no evidence that radical left-wing candidates do better in elections than moderate ones in the US, and plenty of evidence against it. Joe Biden is not a perfect human being, as lefty Twitter is happy to remind us on a constant basis, but he is the man to beat Donald Trump.

This debate is not necessarily about which candidate's policies are better, or which candidate has more personal flaws and foibles, so I would ask that my opponent refrain from focusing on these topics, unless they can argue that it directly ties into their chances of winning the general election. Political debates of this nature always seem to deteriorate into mudslinging, so I hope to keep this discussion civil, intelligent, and empathetic. Thank you for listening!

Rules:
1. No new arguments in the final round from either side
2. BoP will be shared between debaters. Each side must attempt to prove that their position is correct.

Structure:
Round 1 = Opening arguments
Round 2 = Rebuttals
Round 3 = Rebuttals
Round 4 = Final rebuttals and summary

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Concession. Normally this would earn conduct, but con offered pathetic insults in the final round due to his poorly veiled hatred of the democrats.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

PRO offered a fulsome, thoughtful argument which CON disrespectfully refused to engage. Double secret extra conduct points to PRO

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Con dropped Pro's points without offering any arguments of his own. As a result, Pro must win arguments.

Conduct to Pro because Con forfeited.