Instigator / Pro
6
1470
rating
50
debates
40.0%
won
Topic
#1865

Hospitals directly cause overpopulation

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
6
Better sources
2
4
Better legibility
2
2
Better conduct
2
2

After 2 votes and with 8 points ahead, the winner is...

Nevets
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
2
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
14
1557
rating
35
debates
52.86%
won
Description

No information

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

THBT: HOSPITALS DIRECTLY CAUSE OVERPOPULATION

PRO1: Hospitals are not to exist because it cures people who are meant to be dead.
CON1:Buildings don't cure people, drs and nurses cure people. overbirth caused by lack of contraception and education is the direct cause of overpopulation
PRO2: Any pop that would have died w/ out hospital intervention count as overpop. Hospital support most births, which even CON says causes overpop
CON2: Adaptation is legitimate strategy, adapted pop is not overpop. Education and contraception would prevent births, with or w/out hospitals

ARGUMENT to CON: PRO needed to define terms up front, particularly what makes a life illegitimately long "meant to be dead" PRO never took on education and contraception argument which was entirely convincing as a root cause.

SOURCES to CON: CON used PRO's sources against PRO- always devastating. PRO offered no citations for R1 then used sources in R2 to were more in agreement w/ CON than PRO

Good engagement on both sides, good topic

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Hospitals keep people alive. However, as con points out, this is an indirect cause (I'd say tertiary); with the true cause being poor education (leading to too many pregnancies). Pro uses sources which support this, all but conceding the debate.