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Remember that glorious moment when Donald Trump told us about his father

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Nevets
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Contender / Con
Points: 35
Description
According to Donald, his father was born is a beautiful place in Germany. Too bad Fred Trump's birth certificate says he was born in New York.
Round 1
Forfeited
Published:
The key word here. Is "patriarch".

Now i will go on to describe below, everything i mean below, and show you how it ends with "Patriarch" being the logical and only true conclusion.

First, let us begin by exploring what the word "father" means.

father is the male parent of a child
A Father is a parent of a Child.
However that does not have to mean "biological Father".
It can also refer to God Father. Holy Father. Step Father. Adoptive Father. Illegitimate Father. Step Father. Father in law. Grand-Father. Great Grand-Father. Patriarch Father.
In fact, you can have several of those Fathers at the sametime, without any contradiction whatsoever.
A father does not need to be on the birth certificate.

Now let us look at Donald Trumps biological father.

Frederick Christ Trump (October 11, 1905 – June 25, 1999) was an American businessman and philanthropist. He was a prominent real-estate developer in New York City. He was the father of Donald Trump

Now let us take a further look at who Frederick Christ Trumps biological father was


Frederick Christ Trump was born in the Bronx on October 11, 1905. He was the second of three children of German Lutheran immigrants Frederick and Elizabeth Christ Trump.

So, now we have established that Donald Trumps biological father, was the biological son of the German Lutheran Frederick, let us take a look at this Lutheran.

Frederick Trump (born Friedrich Trump; 14 March 1869 – 30 May 1918) was a German–American businessman and the patriarch of the Trump family. Born in Kallstadt, in the Kingdom of Bavaria (now in Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany)

So we now see, that Lutheran Fred Trump, was born in Germany, was of high status. And was the Patriarch of the Trump family.

So let us take a look at what the word, "Patriarch" means.

The word is derived from Greek πατριάρχης (patriarchēs),[1] meaning "chief or father of a family"
So we clearly see, that the word "Patriarch" means "Father of a family".



The end.......




Round 2
Forfeited
Published:
As we have already established in round 1, there is ample evidence with which to logically assume, Donald Trump, is in fact referring to his "grand-father", who is also his "Patriarch father"



Added:
So glad to know that this ultra rightwing website doesn't like me.
If you liked me, I would wonder where I had gone wrong!
P.S. Facts are your enemy.
Instigator
#21
Added:
--> @Nevets
Full forfeiture was the judgment against your opponent, however, you were on a genealogical course in your argument with regard to Trump's father, U.S. born, and his grandfather, German-born. We can't know what was in Trump's head, but, the fact remains that since his grandfather was German, therefore, Trump is, effectively 1/6 German [two sets of grandparents plus one set of parents - six contributors to his genome], so could rightly consider himself ore than 1/6 German, let alone saying his father was [German by ancestry of both parents, American only by legal immigration]. Another way of looking at it, a grandfather is, in essence, a genealogical father.
#20
Added:
--> @User_2006
Thank you my friend.
I forgive you for trolling my debate.
:)
Contender
#19
Added:
--> @Nevets
Anyways, you are winning and will win.
#18
Added:
For all the Trump arse kissers on this site, over 23,000 dead...These are real people
Of course Trump doesn't care.
Instigator
#17
Added:
Nevits…
I prefer to have an intelligent conversation with an adult. Clearly that is impossible with you..
Bye, Bye
Instigator
#16
Added:
--> @ramdatt
But a "father" does not have to be a "biological father".
And Donald Trump was under no obligation to go in to further detail.
As who his father is, was "not" his claim.
His claim was, that the EU are ripping USA off by a full 1%.
USA are paying the EU 2% when they should only be paying 1%.
That was "his claim".
The media chose to dismiss this part, and highlight wrongfully, that his claim was that his father is born in Germany.
Contender
#15
Added:
" I only took on the debate which i knew i could disprove you on."
And I provided evidence that these were words out of Donald Trump's mouth..
Perhaps English isn't your first language.
Instigator
#14
Added:
--> @ramdatt
And regarding me being pro-trump.
Do you notice i never took on any of your other debates regarding Trump? I only took on the debate which i knew i could disprove you on.
This does not make me anti-trump, nor pro-trump.
Contender
#13
Added:
--> @ramdatt
You had 2 rounds to make this argument.
I put forth evidence that his grand-father is in-fact the Patriarch father of the entire Trump family.
That is pretty conclusive.
However you had 2 rounds to show how that is not the case.
Contender
#12
Added:
"As we have already established in round 1, there is ample evidence with which to logically assume, Donald Trump, is in fact referring to his "grand-father", who is also his "Patriarch father"
Nope...
English is my first and only language. Donald Trump clearly was referring to his father, not his grandfather..
On March 9, 2019...
Donald Trump told reporters on Tuesday that his late father was born in Germany, despite the fact that the man — real estate developer Frederick Christ Trump — was actually born in the Bronx.
The president, 72, was speaking to the press during a briefing with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg when he made the false declaration. At the time, Trump was venting his frustrations about Germany’s financial contributions to NATO.
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\Nevits...Feel free to B S all you want!
Instigator
#11
Added:
"Please give up with this phase you are going through."
You must be joking. My pleasure comes from pissing off Trump arse kissers like yourself.
Instigator
#10
Added:
--> @User_2006
"According to Donald, his father was born is a beautiful place in Germany. Too bad Fred Trump's birth certificate says he was born in New York."
No, only if you are dishonest would you argue that.
However in his discription it is quite clear what he is referring too.
Please give up with this phase you are going through.
Contender
#9
Added:
--> @Nevets
I am sorry and I want to be good friends with you, but you really took the wrong side. If you took CON you are supposed to argue that you didn't remember that Trump told about his father.
#8
Added:
Boo Hoo…
I am losing this debate to the Trump arse kissers..
What am I to do ? What am I to do ?
The same as I always do...
Point out that Trump is taking the USA towards total disaster..
Of course, the Trump arse kissers don't care.
Instigator
#7
#5
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
FF ⠀
#4
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Full forfeiture
#3
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Full Forfeit
#2
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Con has presented reliable arguments and true evidence about Trump's ancestors. Pro has not responded since the debate started.
#1
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Full forfeit.