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Points: 8

# At the rate we are going, it won't be long before the death toll tops our loss in the Vietnam War

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User_2006
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Contender / Con
Points: 28
Description
Attaboy Donald!
Round 1
Forfeited
Published:
Define "long". I don't need to say anything more because my opponent has forfeited.
Round 2
Published:
Today 22,000 dead. The death toll for US serviceman during the Vietnam War was 58,000.

We will surpass that number in less than 1 month.
Published:
Coronavirus rate 2:
Since your “short” is 1 month, I will try my best to argue that it will be more than 1 month to reach Vietnam War deaths.

How many people in the Vietnam war died? About 1,353,000.[1] How many people died of coronavirus now? About 1/10 of the Vietnam war now.

Now our rate is going about 6500 a day.[2] Let’s do the math. Next month is 31 days, and a day is 6500. “At this rate” means linear, and logarithmically speaking, it is pretty flat considering we had around the same number of deaths per day in the last few weeks. So we are going pretty linearly. Let’s say just 6,500 a day. Then 6500x31 equals 201500, or 201,500. Today it is about 116,000 deaths, plus that 201,500 it is 318,000, and 318,000 is less than 1,353,000 if you know quick maths.

Calculating to this rate, it will take more than 6 months for the coronavirus toll to reach Vietnam War deaths considering (1,353,000-116,000) / 201,500 roughly equals 6.14,[3] which is more than 6. Since 6.14>1, thus in conclusion Coronavirus deaths will not reach Vietnam War deaths until 6 months later, where this is if we GO OUT LIKE IF THERE IS NO THREAT, and in projection, Coronavirus will be gone in about July, so there is a chance Coronavirus will be gone before death reaches the Vietnam War deaths, and if we keep the same rate, it will take us 6 months, end of the story.

Sources:
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties
[2] https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
[3] https://calculator.com/standard-tape/

Just a comment for voting, even if the rate is about 20,000 per day, it is 620,000 a month, and today it is 160,000, which is more than when this debate takes place. 620,000+160,000<1,353,000. Take that into consideration.
Contender
#26
Knowing I am losing 4 other debates. Maybe this debate will even bring my ranking to 1490 or even 1500.
Contender
#25
--> @ramdatt
"I am highly suspicious that you are Hezikiah from DDO."
I am highly suspicious that you are an infantile who doesn't belong on this website!"
Wow, even the same behaviors. Guess you are either accepting it or proving me false. No offensive slurs. I hate Trump.
Contender
#24
I am highly suspicious that you are Hezikiah from DDO."
I am highly suspicious that you are an infantile who doesn't belong on this website!
Instigator
#23
--> @ramdatt
I am highly suspicious that you are Hezikiah from DDO. Say, ARE YOU?
Contender
#22
" Coronavirus rate 2:
Since your “short” is 1 month, I will try my best to argue that it will be more than 1 month to reach Vietnam War deaths.
How many people in the Vietnam war died? About 1,353,000"
My childish friend...
Perhaps you can't read English. 58,000 US servicemen died in the Vietnam war.
Ok, User_2006...
Instigator
#21
By the way, there is a reason I am barred from starting a new debate....
this site is run by right wing conspiracy theorists who are afraid of the truth...
DONALD TRUMP IS A TOTAL DISASTER WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEMISE OF OUT COUNTRY!
Instigator
#20
It wont take long before the death toll exceeds 58,000
ATTABOY DONALD!
Instigator
#19
The far right is far more mentally unstable then the far left
But believe whatever makes you happy.
Maybe that allows you to sleep at night in spite of the mental instability of the president.
Instigator
#18
How so? It's true, isn't it? The Left both called for probes into his supposedly deteriorating mental health and claimed he was going to draw us into a war with Iran.
There've been a few close scrapes but so far WW3 hasn't happened. He's got less than a year left in his (first) term. Is Trump gonna do it or not?
"Considering the Left's accused him of having dementia or Alzheimer's since Day 1 of his presidency, if he was going to do this it would've already happened sometime in the past 3 years"
Whatever makes you happy!
Of course, your comment is pure nonsense!
Instigator
#16
--> @ramdatt
"There is a possibility Trump will start a war to draw attention away from his mental breakdown."
Considering the Left's accused him of having dementia or Alzheimer's since Day 1 of his presidency, if he was going to do this it would've already happened sometime in the past 3 years, no?
There is a possibility Trump will start a war to draw attention away from his mental breakdown.
Instigator
#14
There should be something in the Constitution to remove a president who has gone totally out of his mind!
Instigator
#13
."And I am not a child. I am a teenager."
Then stop acting like a child!
Instigator
#12
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Conduct for the forfeited Round 1 and general laziness in Round 2 vs the hard work of Con's Round 2.
Only Con used sources and Con was the only person to actually use mathematics to explain how the numbers are projected to grow.
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Argument: Pro's argument was virtually contained in the debate title, then confused it by then stating in round 2 that "our" dead in Viet Nam amounted to over 1M deaths, as if "our" meant the world's loss in Viet Nam. pro would have self-advantaged by filling out their profile, but, instead, every entry is "unknown, so we do not know whether Pro's "our" is the U.S., another country, or the world. Vague does not win points. And, pro forfeited effectively half the rounds. Meanwhile, Con offered cogent argument. poitns to Con
Sources: All points to Con
S&G tied
Conduct: Pro forfeited a round. points to Con
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Forfeiture for conduct, and actual math usage (vs a mere assertion) for arguments.
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Conduct to Con because Pro forfeited.
Con was able to destroy Pro's position by calculating the improbability that the death toll will top our loss in the Vietnam War.
So Con wins arguments.