Instigator / Pro
8
1360
rating
19
debates
0.0%
won
Topic
#1893

At the rate we are going, it won't be long before the death toll tops our loss in the Vietnam War

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
12
Better sources
4
8
Better legibility
4
4
Better conduct
0
4

After 4 votes and with 20 points ahead, the winner is...

User_2006
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
2
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
28
1470
rating
50
debates
40.0%
won
Description

Attaboy Donald!

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Conduct for the forfeited Round 1 and general laziness in Round 2 vs the hard work of Con's Round 2.

Only Con used sources and Con was the only person to actually use mathematics to explain how the numbers are projected to grow.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Argument: Pro's argument was virtually contained in the debate title, then confused it by then stating in round 2 that "our" dead in Viet Nam amounted to over 1M deaths, as if "our" meant the world's loss in Viet Nam. pro would have self-advantaged by filling out their profile, but, instead, every entry is "unknown, so we do not know whether Pro's "our" is the U.S., another country, or the world. Vague does not win points. And, pro forfeited effectively half the rounds. Meanwhile, Con offered cogent argument. poitns to Con

Sources: All points to Con

S&G tied

Conduct: Pro forfeited a round. points to Con

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Forfeiture for conduct, and actual math usage (vs a mere assertion) for arguments.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Conduct to Con because Pro forfeited.

Con was able to destroy Pro's position by calculating the improbability that the death toll will top our loss in the Vietnam War.

So Con wins arguments.