Instigator / Pro
Points: 7

I have a question for debaters obsessed with VICTORY

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oromagi
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Politics
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Contender / Con
Points: 28
Description
When you win a debate, how much do you save on your next New York City subway ride ?
Round 1
Forfeited
Published:
Q:
WHEN YOU WIN a DEBATE: HOW MUCH do you SAVE on YOUR NEXT NEW YORK CITY SUBWAY RIDE?

A:
  • Poets always ride for free

Round 2
Published:
Fools who like Trump also ride for free!
Published:
  • Fools who like Trump also ride for free!
That's generally FALSE.  Republicans have little use for public transportation.

  • The Democratic Party holds most of its power in the nation’s cities, whereas the GOP retains greater strength in the exurbs and rural areas. The two parties generally fight it out over the suburbs. In essence, the base of the two parties is becoming increasingly split in spatial terms: The Democrats’ most vocal constituents live in cities, whereas the Republicans’ power brokers would never agree to what some frame as a nightmare of tenements and light rail.

  • What does this mean? When there is a change in political power in Washington, the differences on transportation policy and other urban issues between the parties reveal themselves as very stark. Republicans in the House of Representatives know that very few of their constituents would benefit directly from increased spending on transit, for instance, so they propose gutting the nation’s commitment to new public transportation lines when they enter office.

Trumpkins hate subways:


Trump promised to "build the greatest infrastructure on the planet earth—the roads and railways and airports of tomorrow.”  And while Trump hasn't put forward any specific proposals to change how Americans move—by automobile, plane, foot, bike, or public transit—the GOP's newly released 2016 platform is openly hostile to just about everything but gas-loving cars.  Republicans want to end all federal funding for mass transit, which they call "an inherently local affair that serves only a small portion of the population, concentrated in six big cities."

Subway riders hate Trumpkins:


Besides, there are almost no Trump supporters in Trump's hometown.  In 2016, fewer than 1 in 10 Manhattanites voted for Trump and early polling suggests sharp declines in Trump support since 2016. 


The few Trumpkins who remain in New York ride limos or helicopters in and out from Wall Street.

Poets, on the other hand, have no net worth.  Poets cannot afford cars and so must ride the subways.  Poets cannot afford the subway fare and so poets always ride for free


Added:
--> @fauxlaw, @Trent0405, @Ragnar, @User_2006
thank u folks 4 voting
Contender
#5
Added:
--> @ramdatt
I have a question for people that start debates but don't want to debate...
Why bother starting a debate?
#4
Added:
Id like to ride on a train someday. A not so crowded one.
#3
Added:
--> @ramdatt
"I have a question for debaters obsessed with VICTORY"
Bruh this site IS for victory. If you are caring for the US then go read news or something. Leave this site. This site is not for politic-packed clowns.
#2
Added:
--> @oromagi
No need to thank me. Even a treestalk could have won a debate with ramdatt.
#1
#4
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Argument: 2-1 to Con by content and forfeit
Sources: 2 - 0 to Con
S&G: 2-0 to Con by content
Conduct: 2-0 to Con by forfeit
#3
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
I guess Con answered the question so he wins args. Pro also forfeited.
#2
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Question debates are always weird. Con provided an answer, it went unchallenged, so he wins.
Conduct for forfeiture.
#1
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Pro forfeited, failed to produce any convincing arguments with any sources, and wrote only a single sentence without errors. Con did not forfeit, used sources to make a convincing argument, and all of them are readable with little to no errors. Thus most points to Con. Con would have won anyways consider Con is a master at debating and Pro has put little to no effort into debating.