Instigator / Pro
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1485
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Topic
#2

Should Autism be cured?

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
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18
Better sources
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12
Better legibility
5
6
Better conduct
2
6

After 6 votes and with 33 points ahead, the winner is...

Smithereens
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
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Description

Should Autism be cured? I, as an Autistic person, say no. Pro starts.

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

Well, sometimes people see certain changes to a person, as too wrong/extreme, that the choice, option, ought never be offered/in by society/government.

Optional Suicide Booths, Optional Sterilization of Certain Groups, Optional Sex Change, Optional Lobotomies, Optional Certain Recreational Drugs.

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

Seems legit. I don't want federal funds going towards it though.

why not just make a cure and if autistic people don't want it they don't have to get it? COMMON SENSE

Some autistic contribute to society, some live off of welfare.

This eerily reminds me of Buck v Bell.

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@DieserDeutscheTyp

My institution gives me access to science journals online, it's very convenient.

I bet Con is some college student, sitting in the library picking out rare books and encyclopedias as his sources for the debate. XD

This debate had promise. I hope you guys debate it again later.

The topic of this debate is an interesting one. I would like to see a less one-sided rendition.

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@Jhhillman

If you post anything into the debate so we can propel it into the vote phase that would be appreciated.

Yeah debate arguments aren't cached on this site so if you lose it all your work is gone. I understand how you feel. Pity, but thanks for the debate thus far.

I am extremely sorry. I am not going to have the necessary time to publish an argument. I am sorry to disappoint you all. (it's also kind of sad cause this is the second debate ever on this site) Sometime later, I will repost this topic. This is completely my fault. BTW if anyone's interested in the kind of logic behind my opinion, I recommend the bloggers Lydia Brown (at Autistic Hoya) and Amy Sequenzia (at Ollibean), and the books Loud Hands and Neurotribes.

AGH I spend a lot of time on an argument but them\n it didn't post for some reason and now it's gone. I'm sorry, this is probably going to take a bit longer. I'll try to have it up before the round expires though. Sorry.

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@Wylted

You can score high on autistic traits without being autistic.

Is it possible to be semi-autistic, because I’m not full on autistic and I would never go full autistic, but I feel partially autistic.

Interesting opening rounds. If I may suggest as someone who plans in voting on this. If the Instigator could structure his arguments more formally, and go into specific detail as to the claimed benefits of autism via psychological, genetic, and neurological studies.

Thank you and I hope my request is taken into consideration, even though the Instigator need not heed it.

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@RationalMadman

If you want to debate the topic just start up a new one. I'll be taking care of this case ty.

Jobs was not autistic, Gates is. Newton was not autistic, Tesla and Einstein were. There are lies in the first debate.

Autism is a trade-off made in the brain where it sacrifices the natural ability to socialise by nature and forces that to be a part lacking that has to be learnt from scratch and in exchange increases the capacity to memorise things in a systematic manner which is simply a level/form of thinking and understanding neurotypicals can NEVER achieve no matter how high their IQ.

I was diagnosed with high functioning Autism from an age far younger than most do (the first signs were official by age 8 but the diagnosis came at age 12 on paper). I know what it is to be autistic but I don't see the drawbacks as an issue (yes I just said the drawbacks are not an issue).

To me, the struggle to learn socialising manually makes me more capable than even a typical psychopath at feigning socialising and has resulted in me being ridiculously good with people and ridiculously high in my immunity to their stupidity and group-think. The natural urge and ability to socialise is a mental illness that makes one skip questioning truth in exchange for the pleasing of other individuals, this is cancerous and makes one tame to superior beings (usually psychopaths but there's others who prey on them of totally different disorders).

I would never want to be normal, I'd rather be dead and this is not hyperbole. Neurotypicals are there to be the norm, they are the bland background to the show in which stars like me shine. I laugh at their normality and don't comprehend wanting to 'cure myself'.

Arguing that an autistic person's wishes should be taken into consideration is fine but as someone who also has a form of autism, I can say that I have suffered greatly because of it and would gladly be rid of it.

This looks like its gonna be a very interesting debate

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@Smithereens

That makes sense. Looking forward to this.

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@Earth

As a psych and neuroscience major, we're not even close to a cure for autism at this point. It's not even well defined. The topic to me meant 'if we could cure autism, should we?'

Im more interested in how autism can be cured, not to mention whether or not it should be cured.

I'm interested in reading this when it's done.

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@Jhhillman

I'm accepting this debate under the assumption that I'm arguing that Autism ought to be cured if possible. Based on your description that's the position it seems you want me to argue.

Just wanted to point out that instigator publishes his or her argument only when the opponent has been found. And the first argument always belongs to the instigator and the instigator always has a pro position.