Instigator / Con
14
1536
rating
19
debates
55.26%
won
Topic
#2015

Ethics of cloning and genetic engineering in humans

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
6
0
Better sources
4
4
Better legibility
2
2
Better conduct
2
2

After 2 votes and with 6 points ahead, the winner is...

nmvarco
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Pro
8
1702
rating
77
debates
70.13%
won
Description

1st round: Con waives, Pro presents opening arguments
2nd round: Con presents opening arguments, Pro presents rebuttals and any new arguments
3rd round: Con presents rebuttals and any new arguments, Pro presents rebuttals, no new arguments
4th round: Con presents rebuttals, no new arguments, Pro waives

I plan to bust out an RFD tonight. Not an easy debate to decide.

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@blamonkey

Thanks for voting. I liked your summary, but will talk about it in PM

Looks like a good in depth debate, however I am too busy to be likely to vote on it.

bumping this for anyone who wants to vote

With all due respect to my opponent, he has concluded his rounds of argument in the debate, and comments is not where the debate is extended until after voting is concluded, per the site policy indicated below, Under [debates/how it works]

"The post voting
The debate is considered finished and the users are encouraged to discuss it in the comments section."

Not before.

With all due respect to my opponent, the line about the “pregnant woman cloning a human being” was taken horribly out of context and his summary of it is quite misleading.

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@fauxlaw

Amazing that you met Mr Watson. Must have been a great experience.

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@fauxlaw

Regarding the waiving of arguments, I don’t believe you can set it so your opponent goes first.

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@nmvarco

Before a debate is accepted, the initiator can edit anything they want. Once accepted, as whiteflame said, it can no longer be edited. I decided to take the debate as is

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@nmvarco

A debate that has been accepted as this one has cannot be edited.

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@fauxlaw

How do you edit debates?

I’ll be watching this one. Good luck to both of you!

I am considering possibly taking this. Is your position that cloning is inherently unethical or is your position that cloning technology could potentially be used in unethical ways?

Like Whitflame, I'm intrigued with this subject, but I have two conditions:
1. Con [you] cannot use a religious morality [playing God, for example] to argue against the premise, since "society" is the section you've placed the debate.
2. I fail to see the sense of waiving arguments. If you only want 3 rounds of debate, declare 3 rounds. I believe instigator, pro or con, should make the first argument, and the respondent has the last word.

I'm super tempted to take this. Any chance we could extend the posting period to 1 week? I don't plan on taking a week, but I'd like to ensure that I can make time if something comes up.

My question: if we all engineer ourselves to have desirable characteristics, won’t we all end up the same?

Humans playing God never works well. There are always unintended consequences.