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Topic
#2019

MICRO DEBATE The US should cease the use of enhanced interrogation techniques

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
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After 10 votes and with 10 points ahead, the winner is...

blamonkey
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
2,500
Voting period
One month
Point system
Winner selection
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Description

I'm going to diverge a little from the rues CaptainSceptic outlined in the forums to be a bit more lenient but still restrictive.

Max characters: 2.5k
Max sources: 4 per round
We default to Merriam Webster for definitions
3 days for arguments

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@blamonkey

What counts as enhanced?

Note: The ban was enacted after they chose to end the final round in another forfeiture.

I've watched the report

Sorry, I was 5 minutes away from posting my arguments and I can't seem to access my files. I will post tomorrow. I think they can be recovered. If not atleast is was only like 2500 characters to rewrite

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@Melcharaz

enhance interrogation not torture. For the purposes of this debate anyway

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@Melcharaz

It can refer to a bunch of different torture methods. I'm pretty sure that the CIA codified a list of acceptable EIT methods.

Just to be clear, when you say enhanced torture, you arent referring to waterboarding?

thank you

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@truthbomb

Oops. Sorry, forgot to include that. The following pages are in order of what I cite from the report:
xi (I forgot to put a (1) by the 20 alleged plots foiled by EIT, sorry about that)
xxi (this page was about the people in detainment who were illegally detained)

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@blamonkey

bro that is a 788 page document lol, if you can narrow it down a bit that would be great. If not I obviously will take your word on the statement.

the other citations are fine, it is just some of the .gov sites

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@truthbomb

Here.
https://docdro.id/pIfwfoj
Also, tell me if you can access the other sources. P.S. I checked. We still do torture people. If we didn't that would have been a short debate. ;-)

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@blamonkey

Yes, I appreciate with you working with me here.

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@truthbomb

Can I send it as a pdf?

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@blamonkey

My computer cannot acces citation number one for security purposes. Is there any other way for me to access the document. The United states government apparently frowns on tor users accessing their stuff.

We can assume enhanced interrogation is occurring. I am more interested in proving it is useful and ethical than disproving it occurs .

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@Jeff_Goldblum

People at Gitmo, probably some black sites too. I could get more specific, but I'll save it for the debate.

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@blamonkey

To be clear, I wasn't trying to say "enhanced interrogation" isn't torture. It obviously is torture.

But the use of the word "cease" in the title suggests we're still torturing people. Who are we torturing?

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@David

Yeah, I meant comments

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@Jeff_Goldblum

Enhanced interrogation techniques performed by the CIA is essentially torture. I'll change it to be more specific.

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@blamonkey

Who is the US torturing? I thought the 'enhanced interrogation' of terrorists had been put to a stop. As far as I can tell, all that leaves is arguing that the US prison system tortures people via solitary confinement or other 'disciplinarian' methods.

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@CaptainSceptic

Awesome!

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@David

Embed them is easiest for judges think. Nice catch Virtuoso. All the little bugs we need to sort out

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@blamonkey

you mean the comments?

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@David

Sure. You could just place sources in the description too.

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@blamonkey

Can we embed sources as hyperlinks to save space or do we have to put them in the text?

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@CaptainSceptic

I forgot to change the point system to choose winner. One sec.

Is the point system what you wanted?

I am very curious about this and how the micro debate works especially for something like torture.

Good Luck to both participants.