Instigator / Pro
40
1711
rating
33
debates
84.85%
won
Topic
#2085

Established Worker Cooperatives(worker owned businesses) are Better than Established Traditional Businesses, as of now.

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
18
0
Better sources
12
8
Better legibility
6
5
Better conduct
4
3

After 6 votes and with 24 points ahead, the winner is...

Trent0405
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Two weeks
Max argument characters
4,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
16
1687
rating
555
debates
68.11%
won
Description

I will be arguing that worker cooperatives are better than traditional firms, my opponent will argue that traditional businesses are better than cooperatives. Also, I will not be arguing for a worker cooperative economy, just that businesses that are worker owned out perform traditional firms. Finally, we will be talking about businesses that currently exist. The BOP is shared.

DEFINITIONS
Established-Firms already in existence.
Better-of a more excellent or effective type or quality.

RULES
No K-ing the resolution

I'M NOT A MARKET SOCIALIST, I'M JUST SIDING WITH THEM ON THIS FOR THIS DEBATE.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Concession.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Concession

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Con Conceded.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Con ceded.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Argument: over the full course of the debate, Pro sustained a better argument, but Con's first round was convincing, too. However, as Pro's was sustained, Pro wins the points. Con conceded.

Sourcing: Pro had clearly better sourcing, although one souce showing a graph comparing Coop and normal firm size, which showed favorable numbers for coops, they were all in Europe [when the largest firms are n the US], and the graph compare4d Coops to "All Firms." Did not inclde coops? The graph is poorly identified. Con had no sourcing at all, and admitted it. points to Pro

S&G: Tie

Conduct. Con conceded. Point to Pro

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Concession.