Instigator / Pro
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1485
rating
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debates
46.15%
won
Topic
#2135

Joe Biden is more likely to win the 2020 election than Donald Trump

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
3
3
Better sources
2
2
Better legibility
1
1
Better conduct
0
1

After 1 vote and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

fauxlaw
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
7
1702
rating
77
debates
70.13%
won
Description

Resolved: As of now (June 2020), Joe Biden is more likely than Donald Trump to win the election.

Structure
R1: Opening
R2: Rebuttals
R3: Defense
R4: Close

The cited references for my r3:

1 Carr, David (January 26, 2014). "Ezra Klein Is Joining Vox Media as Web Journalism Asserts Itself". The New York Times

2 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-kim-jong-un-meet-dmz-n1025041

3 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/30/world/asia/trump-north-korea-dmz.html

4 https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/15/politics/is-trumps-bill-largest-tax-cut-in-history-no/index.html

5 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/15/donald-trump-tax-cuts-unpopular-1273469

6 https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=djia+today&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

7 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-stock-market-could-crash-if-donald-trump-is-elected-2016-10-31

8 https://www.factcheck.org/2018/01/trump-takes-undue-credit-black-unemployment/

9 https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/obama-didnt-give-iran-150-billion-in-cash/

10 https://www.brookings.edu/blog/markaz/2016/10/03/the-united-states-iran-and-1-7-billion-sorting-out-the-details/

11 https://deadline.com/2018/06/joe-biden-blasts-donald-trump-irresponsible-approach-north-korea-summit-kim-jong-un-1202408935/

12 https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/505465-poll-record-number-of-voter-disapprove-of-trumps-handling-of

13 https://www.checkmarket.com/sample-size-calculator/

14 https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/rating

It will be featured in my r2, when posted [see IV.b of r2], but as it is not a critical feature of my argument, I will offer a sideline here in comments that is NOT part of my argument; just a little fun. Using a popular song from the broadway hit, "Hair" [1968], I. penned the following parody:

Joe’s Hair

Jill asks me why I’m such a hairy guy,
I’m hairy night and day, enough for you to buy,
I’m hairy high and low; don’t ask; don’t know
Just stroke it smooth, t’will rise and show…
So, Darlin, give me head with hair,
Such long, beautiful hair,
Shining, gleaming, sniffing, flaxen, wax on,
Turn on, give me hair down to there
Hair that thrills when you stare,
Hair, baby, hair, momma, hair wherever,
Hair----
Show it, but don’t mow it, God, can I grow it!
Flies in the breeze, tangles in the trees,
Give a home to the fleas, a hive for the bees,
A nest for the birds, don’t they love my sniffing yours,
There ain’t no words for the wonders of coiffeurs,
Legs, hairy, pits, hairy, everywhere I’m hairy, Harry.
Hair…

©2019 by fauxlaw

References for Con r1:

1 https://www.thoughtco.com/historical-midterm-election-results-4087704

2 https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/recession.asp

3 https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=djia+today&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_protests_against_Donald_Trump

5 ibid

6 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-the-never-ending-story-of-the-jerusalem-embassy-move-1.5494231

7 https://bipartisanpolicy.org/report/2012-voter-turnout/

8 https://www.pewresearch.org/methods/2019/11/19/a-field-guide-to-polling-election-2020-edition/

9 The Six Sigma Black Belt Certification Manual, June 2018 edition, The Council for Six Sigma Certification.

10 ibid

11 ibid

12 ibid, and https://www.checkmarket.com/sample-size-calculator/

13 https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/why-2016-election-polls-missed-their-mark/

14 ibid

15 https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/why-2016-election-polls-missed-their-mark/

16 https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/14/us/politics/trump-jerusalem-embassy-middle-east-peace.html

17 https://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-trump-kim-summit-20180611-story.html

18 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tax-history/trumps-tax-cut-wont-be-the-biggest-in-u-s-history-idUSKBN1D223O

19 https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/aug/01/donald-trump-said-hes-done-more-african-americans-/

20 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/03/01/was-obamas-1-7-billion-cash-deal-with-iran-prohibited-by-u-s-law/

21 https://theconversation.com/why-the-uss-1994-deal-with-north-korea-failed-and-what-trump-can-learn-from-it-80578

22 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-debt-downgrade/united-states-loses-prized-aaa-credit-rating-from-sp-idUSTRE7746VF20110807

23 https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=djia+today&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

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@fauxlaw

Yeah though I don’t intend on making new arguments in r 2

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@David

So, just to be clear, are we having arguments for 2 rounds, or more, along with rebuttals beginning r2? Don't want to blow it in r3.

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@fauxlaw

Settings changed

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@fauxlaw

That’s fine by me

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@David

Forgot - aere you saying by structure that there are no new arguments after first round? I can buy no new arguments last round, but I'd prefer argument for at least two rounds. Can do?

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@David

Much better, but fair warning; I'm not going to take a week for arguments.

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@fauxlaw

Yeah. How does 1 week arguments and 2 week of voting sound?

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@David

You do realize, my friend, that your arguments and voting designations mean the debate could endure 24 weeks to finish of voting. As of today, that means December 12; a month beyond the election. Hardly a germane debate in 24 weeks if the debate is calendared as of now [June 2020]. Wanna think abut shortening the cycle just to remain relevant?

As of now? maybe. As of election day... well, at some point, Ds are going to have to reconcile a candidate who...
- thinks he's running for the Senate
- likes children rubbing his hairy legs
- sniffs hair
- manhandles women and girls [while sniffing their hair]
- bragged that he had a Ukranian prosecutor fired, or he'd withhold $1B
- Says he will beat Joe Biden.

I really have to ask: When Joe Biden is elected, who will be the President?

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@TheUnderdog

If only the libertarians had more traction.

Both candidates are awful. I'm voting Libertarian this time.

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@David

A sort of cry of desperation type debate, hoping to reach out to all those gun toting, right wing, evangelical rednecks.

If only the meek could inherit the Earth hey.

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@RationalMadman

Agreed. America won't survive 4 more years.

Whether he is more likely or not, Trump winning will be a travesty.