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God and Santa

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Description
Disclaimer : Regardless of the setup for voting win or lose, The aim of this interaction, Is for those that view it, Learn and or take away anything that will amount to any constructive value ultimately. So that counts as anything that'll cause one to reconsider an idea, Understand a subject better, Help build a greater wealth of knowledge getting closer to truth. When either of us has accomplished that with any individual here, That's who the victor of the debate becomes.
Please demonstrate how the two concepts are the same.
Believing in Santa Claus is likened to the belief in God.
How so?
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Round 1
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The description of the debate will serve as the first round.
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Disclaimer: I believe in a god outside of this debate, I am a Pagan and Taoist.

Both God and Santa give rewards to the 'good' and withhold rewards, even giving displeasurable hell/coal/curses to the 'wicked/evil'. 

Both God and Santa have a dual situation whereby if we go strictly by scripture, both are scientifically disproven in many ways but if we become flexible about what they are and how they work, they can both plausibly be real.

Santa Claus is derived from Saint Niklaus which means even his morality is a Christian one that would match somewhat closesly to the Abrahamic God that the creator of this debate seems to be referring to.

Neither has physical evidence they are real.

I guess I'll stop there.


Round 2
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Has Santa Claus been proven to be false according to it's claim?
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So has God if the claims are held strictly down to scripture and folklore.

On the other hand, if we are flexible about what this magical entity is and how it works, no Santa hasn't been disproven he merely gives you presents via mind-controlling your parents to give better presents to children who aren't as naughty. 

This doesn't mean I believe in Santa, I am offering a hypothesis as to how we could amend the scripture's provable flaws and take things metaphorically to then make the being capable of being real via other means. This is done for God plenty of times in Abrahamic religions.
Round 3
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"So has God if the claims are held strictly down to scripture and folklore.

On the other hand, if we are flexible about what this magical entity is and how it works, no Santa hasn't been disproven he merely gives you presents via mind-controlling your parents to give better presents to children who aren't as naughty. 

This doesn't mean I believe in Santa, I am offering a hypothesis as to how we could amend the scripture's provable flaws and take things metaphorically to then make the being capable of being real via other means. This is done for God plenty of times in Abrahamic religions."

So the claim about Santa is that he gives presents to children. How is this not disproven with the proof of parents actually doing it?
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Round 4
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I lazily assumed the topic was a typo of God and Satan
#6
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As per the description, all pro needs to do is demonstrate that believing in Santa Claus is likened to the belief in God.
#5
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--> @fauxlaw
He came from DDO and that is why he uses the description as A1. However it is curious that he did not make any clear arguments.
#4
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--> @User_2006
A chickenshyte tactic.
#3
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--> @fauxlaw
He is probably waiving.
#2
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--> @Mall
Mall's round 1 reiterates the description, but the description asks for "how" the one subject is likened to the other. I see no "how." Argument failure. Need a better argument than reiteration.
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