Instigator / Con
1
1634
rating
13
debates
80.77%
won
Topic
#2154

Americans Ought to Feel National Pride (7.42k Characters)

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Winner
1
2

After 2 votes and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

oromagi
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
7,420
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Winner selection
Voting system
Open
Contender / Pro
2
1922
rating
117
debates
97.44%
won
Description

Resolution: Americans are justified in feeling national pride.

Definitions -

Americans: citizens of the United States of America

National Pride: a feeling of deep pleasure or satisfaction arising from the accomplishments, behavior, and condition of the USA in the past and present

BoP is shared. I must advance a case as to why we should not feel national pride, whereas my opponent must advance a case as to why we should feel national pride.

Criterion
Con
Tie
Pro
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

This was a difficult vote to make on the basis of a winner selection, coupled with the error made by Pro in round 3. Con's approval of a remedy for the error actually plays the role of the very argument Pro was making for the proposition of the debate. No, after careful consideration of the arguments, I disagree with Pro's r2 argument regarding the Appeal to Consequences Fallacy. Con's argument that pride in America [and, in fact, any national's pride in his/her country] is not a zero sum game, but rather, a serious consideration of the great achievements made by, in this specific case, Americans. The distinction drawn by Con of America being a construct of Americans, and not just the country [a thing, after all, not a person] and that, as Americans, we do not and should not wear America's sins on our sleeves because we, individually, did not commit them. As it happens, by religion [Judeo-Christian], I do not believe we bear the sins of Adam; he does, and he, alone. We bear our own sins, and even at that, as Con argued, we can be proud of America.

Criterion
Con
Tie
Pro
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

NOTICE:
Pro's R3 round may be viewed at: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4494/post-links/187318

Con has requested: "When you vote, please indicate that you've seen his R3."