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Topic
#2185

The Coronavirus Spread is the Most Influential Event in the Last Decade

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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After 2 votes and with 2 points ahead, the winner is...

fauxlaw
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Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Two days
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Voting period
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Description

Decade: 10 years, starting from 2010 to 2020

Coronavirus: a large family of viruses that cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases such as Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS-CoV) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS-CoV).

Event: a thing that happens, especially one of importance.

Influential: the capacity or power of persons or things to be a compelling force on or produce effects on the actions, behavior, opinions, etc., of others

Burden of Proof is shared

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@Intelligence_06

Thanks for voting

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@seldiora

Who says I'm the one who is confused? You're the one who confused your own calendar. And I have no confusion about "influential." You defined it, and I have no objection to your definition. So, we carry on...

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@fauxlaw

I can understand your confusion about "influential", and I apologize if you didn't know what exactly to argue.

This debate could have been worded "the effects caused by X were the greatest, in the time span of ...[whatever]"

But I'm arguing that "X, which occurred in time span of ...[whatever] would go on to cause the greatest effect".

The first debate, I don't think makes sense in the context of 2010~2019

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@oromagi

Fascinating. So, we may as well do away with all judges, journalists and progress trackers of any kind.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” -TR

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@fauxlaw

Do you never view sports as a spectator? Lol.

Teddy Roosevelt had a comment of critics [spectators] and the field of play. But, if bleachers are where RM would like to sit...

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@fauxlaw

We are not here to say we can defeat Pro or that Pro is wrong. We are here as spectators discussing the debate. Not every fan in a stadium claims they could beat the player on/in the field/pitch/arena that they analyse in their comments.

Now that I have accepted the debate, while the rest of you [except oromagi] strain at gnats...
It is, gentlemen, like this: If you're going to take out your gun, shoot the damn thing and stop talking about it.

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@seldiora

Which coronavirus outbreak? If you are not specifying then it or unfair.

in the 2010's?? god no

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@oromagi

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@oromagi

PRO's definition includes mers and sars.

Fun Fact: The word flu is an abbreviation of influenza which is the Italian word meaning "influence" as in, under the influence of the stars, evil spirits, etc. If we define influential as flu-like then I think its fair to say that coronavirus is the most flu-like event in recent memory.

I think PRO wants to mean the coronavirus will likely have more influence over the next decade than any other event in the present decade. An easy K would be to say that coronavirus came in the final year of this decade and so had relatively little influence over the decade as a whole. I'd argue that Vladimir Putin had far more influence over the 2010's than coronavirus.

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@seldiora

I don't plan on accepting this one, but what I know is that "Coronavirus spread" is not a single event. You should say "events" instead of event because I could say that driving, traveling, sleeping, and eating, each one is more influential than "the" coronavirus spread.

I don't have a counterexample that shows a single event simply more influential than at least 3 rounds of a virus, but I know a good critique.