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Topic
#2232

fauxlaw lost the argument in his debate MONEY CAN BRING HAPPINESS

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
3
Better sources
0
2
Better legibility
1
1
Better conduct
1
1

After 1 vote and with 5 points ahead, the winner is...

fauxlaw
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
7
1702
rating
77
debates
70.13%
won
Description

since your debate had no votes in time, and your opponent is inactive, I'm willing to have another debate about it if you're willing.

I am arguing that you LOST the argument against your opponent. (dropped too many points, didn't have enough of a convincing case, etc.)

the debate: https://www.debateart.com/debates/2130/money-can-bring-happiness

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@fauxlaw

You're welcome.

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@SirAnonymous

thank you for voting

bump

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@MisterChris

Yes, that's what I mean.

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@seldiora

I understand your motive, just remember that if it can be taken the wrong way, it probably will. Certain users (cough cough, a certain madman, cough cough) would almost certainly have a cow if they were called out. Fauxlaw is just a very good sport. Basically just tread carefully and make sure you don't cross that personal attack line and you'll be a-okay.

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@fauxlaw

Do you mean outside material as anything referenced that does not have its origin within the original debate in question? Technical voters would almost definitely exclude it during their judgement, so you are right to warn PRO of it.

Anyway, I'm glad you and seldiora had a good debate. I just caution seldiora against making debates such as these in the future. Certain users (cough cough, a certain madman, cough cough) would almost certainly have a cow in your place, so I commend your conduct. I may leave a vote so that there is some closure on the matter

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@MisterChris
@seldiora

Chris, I didn't see your post #3 until I completed and posted my last round, sending the debate to voting. I cautioned Seldiora by PM before our debate began about referencing outside material in our debate, not that we cannot [because sources are outside material] but that it is a problem for voters who consider that outside material in their deliberation. You'll note in reading the debate [I hope you do], that I had to mention this again, so I hope your note will have effect in the future. That said, fun debate. I wish I'd thought of some things I raised this time; it may have made a difference in outcome last time.

Seldiora, that was a fun debate. Thanks for the invitation.

o, I just wanted to resolve the tie on his other debate since it had no votes

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@fauxlaw
@seldiora

Hi! You're not in trouble, as fauxlaw seems to have no qualms about it, but I just wanted to inform you that call-out debates like this are generally discouraged as they teeter very close to the line of personal attack. (In fact, if fauxlaw took this in ill taste and wanted to have this removed we probably would.)

Here is an excerpt from the Moderation Extended Policies and Interpretations:

"Debates may not be deleted, barring certain exceptions
Exceptions to PA.A2.SB.SbB1.PI are limited to:
Cases in which both debaters consent to a debate’s deletion
Cases in which the debate, either in its text or title, contains personal attacks against another user
Cases in which the debate constitutes spam or advertising
Cases in which the debate, either in its text or title, contains doxxing, PM-exposing, or seriously threatening content
Cases in which the debate was created by an account impersonating DART staff
Cases in which the debate was created by a multi-account of a user banned at the time of the debate’s creation"

Please remember this when making debates in the future to avoid moderation conflict. Thank you!

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@Barney

This is turning into "Money indeed brings happiness".

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@seldiora

https://youtu.be/2ZIpFytCSVc