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Topic
#2377

Atheists and Agnostics can never convert to theism, ever.

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
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6
Better sources
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4
Better legibility
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2
Better conduct
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2

After 2 votes and with 6 points ahead, the winner is...

Barney
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Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
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Description

Disclaimer : Regardless of the setup for voting win or lose, The aim of this interaction, Is for those that view it, Learn and or take away anything that will amount to any constructive value ultimately. So that counts as anything that'll cause one to reconsider an idea, Understand a subject better, Help build a greater wealth of knowledge getting closer to truth. When either of us has accomplished that with any individual here, That's who the victor of the debate becomes.

Atheists looking for empirical, Practical, Observable, Solid scientific evidence for the existence of a god or gods will never ever but never become theists in that manner.

Atheists say their open to the existence of a god or gods by a vehicle of evidence. This means they cannot convert to theism or deism for that matter.

Likewise with agnostics, It's more clear cut with them as they say there isn't enough information or knowledge. They simply say we can't know anything in regards to the existence of a super natural being. So right there in that steadfast stance, There's no budging.

This challenge to refute points made in this topic is also encouraged/offered to the theists to take on.

For clarity or questions, Please send a message or comment prior to accepting debate.

What resolution?

I think what you said just prove the topic statement true. I'm going to give this site the benefit of the doubt and you, the voters and others are just not understanding me.

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@Mall

God need not be proven real to the voter, so long as converts such as myself were proven real to them; thereby proving the resolution false.

Vote on that question as well.

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@SirAnonymous
@BearMan

Thank you both for voting!

How many of you think God has been proven to be real?

Excellent timekeeper you are.

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@Barney

Will do soon

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@MisterChris
@TheUnderdog
@Intelligence_06

I hope you all enjoyed the debate.

Of course, vote please.

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@Mall

90 minutes remain for you to post your final argument.

If Mall proclaims to be a thinking being, and, potentially, an example of the "paragon of animals," with the ability to manipulate elements [such as hydrogen and oxygen], dare I challenge Mall to produce a molecule of those two elements that has at least four separate physical construct phases [a fluid, a solid, a gas, and a plasma]? If non-intelligent random selection can produce such a molecule, surely a thinking person can do so, too. Or, does it require intelligence even greater than the "paragon of animals?"

I'm an atheist right now, but I sometimes am Christian if I think the evidence is there. Atheists and agnostics can convert to Christianity any time they feel like it.

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@Intelligence_06

I'm guessing you had this and the Trump debate confused?

While I don't care to actually debate it, as a hypothetical, here is my argument that Trump isn't racist: As reported by various liberal arts majors, racism is strictly systemic, so an individual cannot be racist; ergo, Donald cannot be racist.

And yes, that is shit. It's shit that conforms to a popular flawed set of beliefs which is in the zeitgeist, but still shit.

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@MisterChris

Oh nvm I thought he was pro

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@Intelligence_06

He's CON.

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@Barney

How?