Instigator / Con
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rating
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debates
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Topic
#2430

A Christian should be judgmental, forceful, demanding, and threatening when sharing the message of salvation in Jesus Christ

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
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3
Better sources
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2
Better legibility
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1
Better conduct
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1

After 1 vote and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

Fruit_Inspector
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Pro
7
1632
rating
20
debates
72.5%
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Description

I claim this is an incorrect approach which should never be used. To begin, I would humbly ask the PRO to justify this approach in the face of:
but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,
1 Peter 3:15 ESV

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@MisterChris

Yes and thank you. Also, the vote review was helpful, I appreciate it!

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@UpholdingTheFaith

On a further note, I hope someone had redirected you to here: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346-about-dart-resources-for-new-members

You will find a list of debate jargon that can really help you figure out what's going on.

Then, there's the official debate guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CJQT_PS9k82QkgrsyTQMKaQ90uY9yubVT0KPMR9XFcc/edit

Ragnar has made a really good guide for formatting debates: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wgEoU2M4k7PvJZzvbwrjw8nOomkYqnBpDaLR4igvMe0/edit#heading=h.4gchlr7uwv2c

All of these resources will really help you become more competitive

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@UpholdingTheFaith

I'm very glad you figured out how to use the quote format tool, it makes your debates a lot better on the eyes

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@Theweakeredge

Agreed. I'm new here. Still confined to my phone for now and have a lot to learn.

The patience of those like my opponent has allowed for me to already learn quite a bit about style and format and flow, but continues to allow these discussions to iterate these things against my ideas.

I'm throughly enjoying these discussions. Taking follow up points. Becoming a better communicator. Generally, just learning.

Again props to my opponent and others who do the same. It's so very appreciated!

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@Fruit_Inspector

Yeah, I'm actually reading the guide now.

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@Theweakeredge

I appreciate those words since I always find it hard to follow arguments that are poorly formatted. I should also give some credit to the DebateArt guide for listing some good ideas (I believe Ragnar provided this).

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@Fruit_Inspector

As an atheist this debate shouldn't interest me, but the way that PRO argues is immaculate. Great respect to you Fruit_Inspector, I am solidly on your side (as far as the context as this debate goes), and will be adding this to my list of great ways to format a debate.

BrotherDThomas doesn't do these debates because for all his ranting and raving, his logic doesn't hold up. His only method is to insult people with a surface-level, biased view of the Bible. He left DDO (under the name "21stCenturyIconoclast") after I showed how ridiculous he was so he came here to spew the same old garbage. He blocked me here after I called him out too. It's a sorry life to live with that much animosity towards other people just because of their beliefs.

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@BrotherDThomas
@UpholdingTheFaith

Well i hope the two of you can work out a resolve sometime.

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@MisterChris
@Sum1hugme

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MisterChris, Sum1hugme,

I rarely do this type of debate in basically a closed setting with limitations. The deck is stacked, where even if I show the pseudo-christian in how biblically ignorant and hypocritical they are, their fellow pseudo-christians will vote for this Bible ignorant Christian nonetheless which turns into partisanship extraordinaire! Jesus and I would rather take it to the forums where it is free range in Bible Slapping Silly®️ the pseudo-christian, praise!

As is blatantly shown at DEBATEART, my biblical backing in not pussy-footing the pseudo-christian in discussion is within the TRUE inspired words of Jesus in this passage: "Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching." (2 Timothy 4:2)

reprove: reprimand or censure someone.
rebuke:  express sharp disapproval or criticism of someone because of their behavior or actions.
exhort:  strongly encourage or urge someone to do something.

Unfortunately, this verse above contradicts the pseudo-christian "UpholdingTheFaith," but what's new?

I am proud to act in the same "no holds barred, in your face" manner as Jesus did in the Temple scenario with the money-changers: "In the temple courts He found men selling cattle, sheep, and doves, and money changers seated at their tables. SO HE MADE A WHIP OUT OF CORDS and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle. He poured out the coins of themoney changers and overturned their tables. To those selling doves He said, “Get these out of here! How dare you turn My Father’s house into a marketplace!” (John 2:14-16). ........ Jesus in this passage is a man's man by whipping the ungodly in the Temple, and shouting at them to leave, and at times pseudo-christians take offense in the way I act when preaching Jesus' TRUE words? NOT! Jesus set the example of a "Take no prisoners" action in this revealing passage, and in turn, I do the same in His name, praise Jesus!

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@Intelligence_06

While I don't believe cruelness or hostility should be used in evangelism, every word in the topic statement is actually part of sharing the gospel when using the actual definition of the words. We also don't use those attitudes only, but they are all biblical. I am treating this as a disagreement between two Christians' methodology.

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@Fruit_Inspector

Really? Instigator is CON!

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@BrotherDThomas

This one is right up your alley

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@MisterChris

yea

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@Intelligence_06

Yes, except I think you mean *CON

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@MisterChris

Pro will win easily. Then big brother will throw a big tantrum that will make everyone know that Christianity isn’t any better than murder.

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@BrotherDThomas

Do what you do best

I've pissed people off by pointing out the definition of terrorism, and how it relates to claims of eternal torture.