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The point of being a Christian is not to be a good person.

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With 1 vote and 3 points ahead, the winner is ...

seldiora
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This is not a debate about the existence of the Christian God. It's about what the teachings of Jesus inform us regarding The Gospel.

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--> @UpholdingTheFaith

You're welcome. I don't often have the time to read debates, but I enjoyed reading this one. Your conduct is always excellent, and you bring out the best in others.

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--> @SirAnonymous

That is awesome feedback thank you! I totally agree too. Thanks for taking the time! You didn't have to.

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--> @UpholdingTheFaith

I think you've improved some. You were making some decent arguments. As I said in my vote, brevity and clarity would help. You need to think about what you need to prove and how your points relate to that. While you wrote a lot of words, many of them didn't have much to do with the resolution.

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--> @Sum1hugme

This verse is in the same context as Galatians 5, which goes much more in depth. An increase in good fruits of the spirits lead to good works because it's now what you want to do, where before you didn't. If you don't have good fruit, you're not a follower of Christ (faith) and therefore faith without works can be thought of as dead. James goes on after that first verse to elaborate on his meaning. For a much more logically based argument, and longer, Romans goes VERY into this idea. Especially around chapters 5, 6, 7.

When the people around you understand the context and you have limited space with which to write, you don't always add the level of context next to every single similar claim as we would today. You have to look at the larger narrative of that section as well as the New Testament story to see if the conclusions follow.

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--> @UpholdingTheFaith

Faith without works is dead right?

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--> @UpholdingTheFaith

perhaps this debate was what you were looking for? https://www.debateart.com/debates/1244-is-christianity-a-good-moral-system-to-follow

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--> @Intelligence_06

vote?

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--> @Intelligence_06

Agreed. Christianity sure doesn't.

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--> @UpholdingTheFaith

If your religion advicates you to be evil, then you have no religion, you have a cult.