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#2528

On Balance, Everyone Born With Exact Same Physical Traits Would be Beneficial to Humanity

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After 5 votes and with 13 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman
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what exact same physical traits? Take the current average height, weight, muscle proportion, etc. Everyone is now born precisely the same look. (But personality, talent, DNA itself may not be the same) I am arguing, that despite the lack of difference in physical (potential biological ramifications), the solution to racism outweighs this negative impact.

If we have some differences then we would have variations anyway. Me, a 14yo Asian intelligent teenager, My dog, A woman I crashed with on the subway, an ant, they all share the same ancestor. Just some cells touching with each other results in this heaven of an ecosystem where some offsprings are fighting with others because things happen.

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@RationalMadman

That's a good strategy. One of these days I should read The Art of War.

This made me think of the movie gattaca.

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@SirAnonymous

Hypnotise the opponent, make them not want to win.

This is the true mastery of the art of war.

(my interpretation of one of Sun Tzu's teachings).

Yup, that's pretty good.

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@RationalMadman

I'll give it a read later when I have a second.

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@RationalMadman

Fully agree. you could basically boil down the fingerprint thing as special pleading as well.

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@whiteflame
@MisterChris
@Intelligence_06
@Theweakeredge

This debate may interest you, Round 3 has the juicy part.

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@seldiora

"exact same physical traits" this would include finger prints, to say otherwise would be untopical, or an argument that is ignoring the constraints of the resolution.

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@Intelligence_06

fingerprints are still different.

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@seldiora

I have thoughts, but I don't want to hand out arguments to either side, so I'll just see how things go.

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@seldiora

Discrimination will always happen unless everyone is the same, which can make legal problems impossible to solve. I would prefer where there is diversity and there is potential discrimination, because we can at least be able to find who committed racism against other groups.

Unless it is hive-mind, having a world where legal ID Is impossible would be not my cup of tea.

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@seldiora

Having freedom of thought would create problems. Some people will be satisfied while others are furious that they look the same as everyone else. I suggest asexual reproduction? Because there is only one gender? Identity scans will be a trouble because everyone Look the same, and everyone can use all others’ identities, making crime identification impossible. How is this good?

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@seldiora

the science behind why inbreeding destroys bloodlines due to maladaptive recessive alleles becoming commonly activated in the genes among the later generations is going to be a major contention of mine.

https://www.bbcearth.com/blog/?article=what-are-the-effects-of-inbreeding

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@whiteflame

thoughts on this one?