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Topic

Rap is the most lyrically advanced form of music

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With 1 vote and 4 points ahead, the winner is ...

Smithereens
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In fact rap includes everything you said it lacks.

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Rap includes melody. What you are referring to is the 'main' part of rap called the 'spitting' or 'delivery of lyrics'.

I would like you to find a successful rap track without melody among the other things you said it lacks.

Then I'd like you explain how they have anything to do with lyrical advancement.

Then I want you to explain why a scale being subjective makes it impossible to uphold. If we totally deny subjectivity as having value, it follows that all forms of music are reduced to equally bad which would imply no one should be paid more than anyone for it amongst many other things.

There's so much to attack here in your case while defending the resolution. The reason I'd hesitate to uphold the resolution is because it literally will take hours (at least 2) to fully put together the ultimate proof that rap is more lyrically advanced than other genres. It's going to convince any voter who doesn't totally deny subjectivity as having value in judging music and lyrics.

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Contender
--> @RationalMadman

yeah nah bad advice RM. If he goes technical he'll be contesting me on music theory grounds where I have an advantage. He should play to his own strengths and try force the debate to focus more on rap issues, where he knows more than I do and would have an advantage. I know you mean well for him but you're gonna throw the debate in my favour so don't.

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Type1 I have had deep chats with you on CD about this topic. You should know how to win, stop stating anything as obvious fact and go into detail. This is a fact and you CAN STILL WIN in round 2 if you take him on properly. Go point by point with patience and stop your hyper aggro style.

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--> @Type1

good luck to you.

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Define what "lyrically advanced" means and what criteria is used to find which genre has more lyrical advancement.